Capture file opened 25-May-1994 03:11a 컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴� / CONNECT 2400 Yes 0800-890-876, b-ac+num-c SHITTY LINE!! -/\STERiX/AFL Today's date is: Wed May 25 03:12:31 1994 Last caller was: Max Overdrive [97] Logged off at: Wed May 25 02:56:36 1994 __ __|\ |\ ___ __|\ _____ |\ / / ___ |\ ___ ___ ___ / /| |/\ | |/ _ \ / /| /_ \/| | |/ //\ / _ \| |/ _ \ / _ \ / _ \ / / |�| \| | |_\ / / |:| | |\/ |_| / / \ \ | \ \�< |_\/| |_\/|:| \ \ \ \ ||| | _ \ \ ||| | | | _ \ \ / / |_/ /||\__ \| _\ ||| / / \ \|:| |\ | | | |\ \|�| | | | | | |\ \\/| /|:|/\_| > |_/\|�|/ / \__/| | \/| | |/ \__/ |/ |_| |/ \/ |_|\_\|/ \___/ \___/ \__/ \| | | : ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ : \| / _ \ / _ \ / _ \ / _ \ / _ \ / _ \ : |�|_\ | | \/| | \/|:|_\/< |_\/< |_\/ [Node 0] || _ | | | | || _\ \__ \ \__ \ Est 1990 |:| | | |_/\| |_/\|�|_/\ /\_| >/\_| > | | |/ \___/ \___/ \___/ \___/ \___/ | | : \| KP2+440636706467+ST : Online 10.00pm-7.00am GMT Operating at 3oo/12oo/24oo bps transmission rates BrItAiNs LaRgEsT cOmPuTeR uNdErGrOuNd ReSeArCh BoArD Newark, Nottinghamshire, England SysOp: Phantasm Enter account number, handle or '0' to logon as NEW. Logon:82 Password:****** Account: [82] Handle: Znote Name: PhoneNo: Status: 2 Protocol: Zmodem Credits: Unlimited K's U/L: 148 K's D/L: 184 Age: 0 Computer: IBM or clone Messages: 62 MailSent: 2 Mail Rec: 13 Last On: Sat May 21 21:59:41 1994 LastBaud: 2400 This is your call number 52 to the system. Checking your mailbox... Sorry, no mail for you today. Scan new message posts (y/n)? Yes Area: General Mail Number: [1] of [50] Title: janet pad access From: Shadow [13] Time: Mon May 23 03:08:47 1994 ok dude here we go for janet access telnet to this ad >>>sun.nsf.ac.uk login >>>>janet<<<< password >>>>janet<<<<< then try this ad for the niss bbs ad>>>>uk.ac.niss<<< ope this help ya out leave me mail if you want to swap sites on here or mail me at skyrider@cyberspace.net bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: General Mail Number: [2] of [50] Title: x.25 access From: Shadow [13] Time: Mon May 23 03:11:17 1994 can any one help me with a gateway from internet to x.25? or any direct dialups for x.25 were i can use visa on line ? bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: General Mail Number: [3] of [50] Title: BBS From: Phantasm [1] Time: Mon May 23 18:10:12 1994 Should I upgrade to Ami-Express v3.37 when the Hayes Optima 28.8k is installed? I also plan on purchasing a Supra 28MHz accelerator card in a few weeks time. Phantasm (SysOp) uabbs@works.com bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: General Mail Number: [4] of [50] Title: Loops From: PaRanOia [23] Time: Mon May 23 22:31:49 1994 Ok phantasm,thanks for that...i seem to remember a friend mentioning that they put filters on them..just I really need one so i can set up a conference.. if anyoen has a workin' one lemme know! bort ast ext uit ead again ail

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ost uit ead Board 1 choice? Quit to next Area: Market Place Number: [49] of [50] Title: Offers From: /\STERiX [88] Time: Mon May 23 22:02:31 1994 Anyone interested in a scanner for the Amiga 500?? Scanner is a Zydec supplied with DataScan software, MiGraph OCR and original manuals. for offers mail me .. acnt #88 Also got various bits of modems if anyone wants em === Asterix / AFL === bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: Market Place Number: [50] of [50] Title: laser From: Max Overdrive [97] Time: Wed May 25 02:36:16 1994 How Cheap? I've got an excellent condition HP LaserJet series II and I'm getting a HP LJ 4 soon so I might sell! bort ast ext uit ead again ail

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ost uit ead Board 2 choice? Quit to next Area: Phone Phreaking Number: [1] of [50] Title: boxing back 2 the uk From: Znote [82] Time: Mon May 23 22:00:38 1994 Boxing to the Uk is easy ... Kp2-xxx-numba-ST ... cant dial my number in Glasgow and cant dial the Tango line 0990112233 and cant dial any United Artists / Mercury / CellNet / Mobile numbers (and all 071's dont work) you need to dial at 35ms to dial correctly ... Z bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply elete Message option? Next Area: Phone Phreaking Number: [2] of [50] Title: Loops From: PaRanOia [23] Time: Mon May 23 22:43:43 1994 /\sterix..thanks for that loop i will test it out and hopefully use it soon.. bort ast ext uit ead again ail

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ost uit ead Board 3 choice? Quit to next Area: Cellular Phreaking Number: [50] of [50] Title: Vodaphone ESN stolen From: Scribla [140] Time: Mon May 23 01:34:02 1994 Anyone know that vodaphone number that checks ESN's and give ya the details you don't have I.E. Call provider, MIN/Phone number, is it barred? regarz ..ooOO sCRIbLA OOoo.. bort ast ext uit ead again ail

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ost uit ead Board 4 choice? Quit to next Area: o5oo Scan Club Number: [11] of [11] Title: AT&T 0500 dialups From: Znote [82] Time: Mon May 23 22:06:54 1994 Heres my list of the fuckas ... +----------------------------------------------+ | Z-N0TE SCAN (R) 1994 All Rights Reversed ... | +----------------------------------------------+ | Scan Of : (0500)-89X-XXX | | Date : March 1994 | | User : Z-N0TE | +----------------------------------------------+ 0500-890-011 = AT&T USA Direct 0500-890-031 = Int Operator 0500-890-032 = BellerCom Int Service 0500-890-033 = French Telecom ... Cards ? 0500-890-034 = Spanish Telecom 0500-890-039 = Engaged Tone 0500-890-041 = Australian Telecom 0500-890-045 = Denmark Telecom bort ast ext uit ead again ail

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ost uit ead Board 5 choice? Quit to next Area: Voice Mail Systems Number: [24] of [27] Title: Express/Meridian From: Znote [82] Time: Mon May 23 22:15:30 1994 0800-111-222 # 1 # 123456 # Listen ... Ford Motors AnsaFone Base ... Has all the ansafone messages in it. Hacked this VMB a year ago, called back for a laugh and got straight in ... Have phun ... Z bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply elete Message option? Next Area: Voice Mail Systems Number: [25] of [27] Title: Express/Meridian From: st00pid jErk [109] Time: Tue May 17 00:06:40 1994 a good method of discovering valid meridian VMB accs is using the Express service that usually goes hand in hand with Meridian VMBs. it seems that within the VMB tel. no. range there is a service which alows you to send msgs without all the menu shit. after the 'Express mail...mailbox?' prompt just start entering numbers (with following #) to find valid boxes.... hmmm...might be usefull.... .:st00pid jErk:. bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: Voice Mail Systems Number: [26] of [27] Title: Express/Meridian From: st00pid jErk [109] Time: Thu May 19 01:26:35 1994 meridian vmbs 0271 388 0000 -0025 atleast 5 boxs not set up.... bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: Voice Mail Systems Number: [27] of [27] Title: tracing on Meridian From: st00pid jErk [109] Time: Sun May 22 00:55:55 1994 hmm...ive recently hacked a meridian VMB sys. there is an apotion to call the person who left a msg on your box...ne1 know wnything about this? does it only log the number that is recorded for the person that left a msg? (i.e. the number affiliated wit the acc). when listening to a msg it specifys whether a msg was left internally or externally. is the number that the system was called form logged? i only ask cos i wanna set up a code line on here.... .:st00pid jErk:. (actually lookin at the above, it desnt make any sense...:) i meant the fone number that was called from...*8-) bort ast ext uit ead again ail

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ost uit ead Board 6 choice? Quit to next Area: Satellite & Cable Number: [43] of [43] Title: Micro Channel From: Cryptic [8] Time: Tue May 24 23:09:38 1994 ANybody heard anything about a microsoft channel on astra?? bort ast ext uit ead again ail

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ost uit ead Board 7 choice? Quit to next Area: Illicit Substances Number: [48] of [50] Title: Where... From: The Grim Reaper [6] Time: Mon May 23 01:59:47 1994 can I find some DMT (Dimethyltryptamine), 2CB, Psilocin (tablets or capsules), Ketamine, pure LSD (or ALD-52), Mescaline, pure MDMA, DET (Diethyltryptamine), 2C-T-7, GHB (Gamma Hydroxy Butyrate), Hash Oil (or preferably pure THC), & quality smoke like Thai Sticks, 00, Nepalese Temple, Finger Rubbings, NL5 x Haze etc. tGr bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: Illicit Substances Number: [49] of [50] Title: Where... From: George King [87] Time: Mon May 23 03:16:25 1994 Thats quite a shopping list, m8 bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: Illicit Substances Number: [50] of [50] Title: Where... From: Max Overdrive [97] Time: Wed May 25 02:49:52 1994 Let me know how you feel when you've done it all, some cocktail ;) bort ast ext uit ead again ail

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ost uit ead Board 8 choice? Quit to next Area: 26oo Magazine Number: [29] of [29] Title: Spring 1994 issue From: Phantasm [1] Time: Tue May 24 17:44:31 1994 I've just been sent the Spring 1994 issue of 2600 magazine. A list of articles follows; Crime Waves Build a DTMF Decoder Nynex Cards Hacking Health Software Piracy Cable Denial Cellular Telephone Experimenters Review Facts on FOIA Letters Blue Boxing - CCITT System #5 A Gift From Hallmark / 10XXX Scary News 2600 Marketplace Michigan Access Book Reviews British Trojan The Chrime Box Anyone wishing to subscribe to this excellent magzine should write to; 2600 Magazine, PO Box 752, Middle Island, NY 11953, U.S.A. Tel: kp2-1-516-751-2600-st Fax: kp2-1-516-751-2608-st Phantasm (SysOp) uabbs@works.com P.S. Special thanks must go to 'Tracker' for sending me this issue! bort ast ext uit ead again ail

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ost uit ead Board 9 choice? Quit to next Completed visiting new posted messages Scan new uploaded files (y/n)? Yes Transfer Area: NEW Uploads File Number: [1] of [3] File Name: wtutele.zip Origin: Black Death [85] Number of D/L's: 4 File Size: 36971 bytes, 37 credits Transfer Time: 2 minutes 56 seconds for transfer at 2400 bps Time Validated: Sun May 22 18:35:49 1994 Description: erm bt info see file id You have an unlimited number of credits to download bort to main ownload ast ext ead again uit xtract this archive listing Mark file for download File Option? Download File Size: 36971 bytes, 37 credits Transfer Time: 2 minutes 56 seconds for transfer at 2400 bps Entering send mode, set your side for receive now. **B0 Transfer Area: NEW Uploads File Number: [2] of [3] File Name: 0800lst.txt Origin: /\STERiX [88] Number of D/L's: 1 File Size: 81183 bytes, 80 credits Transfer Time: 6 minutes 27 seconds for transfer at 2400 bps Time Validated: Mon May 23 21:59:27 1994 Description: A *VERY* long 0800 89x-xxx scan! last updated 14 of this month! You have an unlimited number of credits to download bort to main ownload ast ext ead again uit iew this text file Mark file for download File Option? Next Transfer Area: NEW Uploads File Number: [3] of [3] File Name: dialout.txt Origin: /\STERiX [88] Number of D/L's: 1 File Size: 1894 bytes, 2 credits Transfer Time: 0 minutes 9 seconds for transfer at 2400 bps Time Validated: Tue May 24 22:28:37 1994 Description: A list of working internet dialouts... You have an unlimited number of credits to download bort to main ownload ast ext ead again uit iew this text file Mark file for download File Option? Next You have an unlimited number of credits to download Protocol: Zmodem in area "NEW Uploads". bort locks free ownload ind ist ew uit pload Directory 1 choice? Abort to main menu All users are hereby notified that a mandatory 1:1 post/call ratio is now in effect. If you do not post at least one message per logon, your account will be deleted from this bulletin board system. News Update: Tuesday 24-May-94 21:01:45 The Hayes Optima 28.8k modem should arrive tomorrow. I will do my best to get everything configured and running upto 14.4k before the weekend. Due to the fact that my serial port will not support 28.8k, this system will probably be running on a 386/486 before the end of 1994. Phantasm (SysOp) __ __ ____ | | :| // o| | : o| | : :| \\____|nAuThOrIsEd |__|__|cCeSs Recent User Action v1.瓢 [Node 0] ------------------------------------------------------------------------- New user logon: [0] Guest Account REAL:Guest Account Baud rate: 2400 Remaining Time: 40 minutes [Main Menu] [? = Menu] -=>Boards DISCLAIMER: ALL MATERIAL AVAILABLE ON THIS SYSTEM IS STRICTLY FOR RESEARCH PURPOSES ONLY. THE SYSTEM OPERATORS DO NOT ASSUME ANY LIABILITY WHATSOEVER FOR LOSS OR DAMAGE CAUSED DIRECTLY, INDIRECTLY, OR ALLEGED TO BE CAUSED BY THE USE OF INFORMATION FROM THIS SYSTEM. All users are hereby notified that a mandatory 1:1 post/call ratio is now in effect. If you do not post at least one message per logon, your account will be deleted from this bulletin board system. [ 1] General Mail [ 2] Market Place [ 3] BBS Advertisements [ 4] Computer Hacking [ 5] Phone Phreaking [ 6] Cellular Phreaking [ 7] Technology Abuse [ 8] Social Engineering [ 9] Trashing [10] Lock Picking [11] Data Encryption [12] Surveillance [13] o5oo Scan Club [14] o8oo Scan Club [15] PSS Scan Club [16] Internet Scan Club [17] Voice Mail Systems [18] Underground News [19] Viruses & Trojans [20] Scanners & Radio [21] Satellite & Cable [22] Electronics [23] Unix Security [24] VAX/VMS Security [25] PBX Scan Club [26] Home Chemistry [27] Illicit Substances [28] ATM Technology [29] Codelines [30] Cyberpunk Movement [31] 26oo Magazine Enter number: 1 Current board is: General Mail bort ist ew

ost uit ead Board 1 choice? Read messages Read from [1,50]? 30 Area: General Mail Number: [30] of [50] Title: hi/red boxes From: Tornado Of Souls [122] Time: Sat May 21 22:58:39 1994 hi you may have noticed im a new User sorry if I come across a bit lame someone recently gave me these numbers ..euro space agency dissemination centre 071 6309466 (7E1) and NASA 0101 205 895 0028 the ESA is a good one supporting vt100 ant tty the nasa one has a modem hanging on it but i havent verified it is actually NASA. Regarding red boxing in the US I was wondering if /how BT signal the machine that a coin has been inserted ? is there a similar tone system or is it completely different? if there is a similar way to red box will the phone cut off the mouth /earpiece untill you insert the minimum required amount like some boxes in the states where you have to put in your dime whatever first. I gather they eventually got round this. gotta go now im running out of time. CHeerZ ToS bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Abort Remaining Time: 39 minutes [Main Menu] [? = Menu] -=>Boards DISCLAIMER: ALL MATERIAL AVAILABLE ON THIS SYSTEM IS STRICTLY FOR RESEARCH PURPOSES ONLY. THE SYSTEM OPERATORS DO NOT ASSUME ANY LIABILITY WHATSOEVER FOR LOSS OR DAMAGE CAUSED DIRECTLY, INDIRECTLY, OR ALLEGED TO BE CAUSED BY THE USE OF INFORMATION FROM THIS SYSTEM. All users are hereby notified that a mandatory 1:1 post/call ratio is now in effect. If you do not post at least one message per logon, your account will be deleted from this bulletin board system. [ 1] General Mail [ 2] Market Place [ 3] BBS Advertisements [ 4] Computer Hacking [ 5] Phone Phreaking [ 6] Cellular Phreaking [ 7] Technology Abuse [ 8] Social Engineering [ 9] Trashing [10] Lock Picking [11] Data Encryption [12] Surveillance [13] o5oo Scan Club [14] o8oo Scan Club [15] PSS Scan Club [16] Internet Scan Club [17] Voice Mail Systems [18] Underground News [19] Viruses & Trojans [20] Scanners & Radio [21] Satellite & Cable [22] Electronics [23] Unix Security [24] VAX/VMS Security [25] PBX Scan Club [26] Home Chemistry [27] Illicit Substances [28] ATM Technology [29] Codelines [30] Cyberpunk Movement [31] 26oo Magazine Enter number: 1 Current board is: General Mail bort ist ew

ost uit ead Board 1 choice? Read messages Read from [1,50]? 10 Area: General Mail Number: [10] of [50] Title: credit checking From: George King [87] Time: Tue May 24 05:24:54 1994 Paranoia here's the number u want: Transax 0800 424 949 Merchant no. 3180379 Code 1 means the transaction is ok. Oh and if they ask, you work in W. H. smith's :) P.s. if they don't do the carrds u want, let me know bort ast ext uit ead again ail

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ost uit ead Board 1 choice? Read messages Read from [1,50]? 15 Area: General Mail Number: [15] of [50] Title: hmmm From: st00pid jErk [109] Time: Wed May 18 00:47:53 1994 there was a prog on tv tonight about the biggest robbery ever (292 mil in bearer bonds) and at the end briefly touched on one of the robbers girlfriends, being a pooter expert, plundering accounts on various famous ppl. was on the CMD (?) net, a net used for trading in the 'city'. was there ever a report on this in any of the usual journals? id never heard of this b4. was i asleep at the time? seemed to happed around 1989-90 bort ast ext uit ead again ail

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ost uit ead Board 1 choice? Read messages Read from [1,50]? 20 Area: General Mail Number: [20] of [50] Title: Hayes Optima 28.8k From: /\STERiX [88] Time: Wed May 18 23:37:57 1994 Hello Mr. Phantasm, If you want a *VERY* good bbs package supporting the new VFAST standards then C-NEt (v2.35 is very good for a 500) and supports all speeds to 192oo. I have the wb2+ version which will support the new 28.8k but you will need an A1200 because the A500 serial port can only xfer data at 31840 which is not a valid standard!! ===> /\STERiX / ALPHA FLiGHT <=== bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: General Mail Number: [21] of [50] Title: internet/irc From: /\STERiX [88] Time: Wed May 18 23:39:06 1994 The best way I now of getting on to internet using CC's which ALWAYS works is to use CIX (081-390-1255), create an account and you get internet access until the accnt is checked!! ===> ASTERiX / ALPHA FLiGHT <=== bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: General Mail Number: [22] of [50] Title: UA BBS IRC Meet From: /\STERiX [88] Time: Wed May 18 23:40:52 1994 I am definitely up for a UA-BBS IRC meet.... Hope more people turno up than last year!!! hehehe ;-).... Hey Phantasm... I am driving myself now so you won#t have to pick me up again ;-) ===> ASTERiX / ALPHA FLiGHT <=== bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: General Mail Number: [23] of [50] Title: Boxing Phucked, Trun From: Jono Bono [194] Time: Thu May 19 02:41:47 1994 Hi all, we'll all blueboxers, there has been a routing change, no US or UK via KP2 12 etc. I will be hacking to find new routes if you beet me to it, please post me a message or public post ....Jono bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: General Mail Number: [24] of [50] Title: boxing back 2 the uk From: Blackthorn [117] Time: Fri May 20 22:43:01 1994 flash: well it dont matter now. boxing is dead..RIP :(.. and the reason why it died was due to to many people boxing in the Uk, that comes from a BT Engineer...heh well about the 179, i never found that out, am8 did he was calling a board is southwales, and somehow got to a bristol number..its fucking strange but it did work bort ast ext uit ead again ail

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ost uit ead Board 1 choice? Read messages Read from [1,50]? 28 Area: General Mail Number: [28] of [50] Title: Boxing Phucked, Trun From: THC [76] Time: Sat May 21 02:37:57 1994 Yeah.. bluboxing.. fucked or just a temp setback? .. To my mind, if you can break the line, then with the appropriate routing coeds, you can dail wherever.. just a question of cracking the little fuckers! :> Some1 suggested that KP2 +46 works for Sweded, 47 for Germany and 33(?) for France.. can't confirm this.. tried but no joy :( .. THC bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: General Mail Number: [29] of [50] Title: Boxing Phucked, Trun From: George King [87] Time: Sat May 21 22:07:36 1994 Flash: I have an 0800-89xxxx number that allows u to use credit cards, it's an automated one, but I don't have it handy..Ill put it up next time. Stoopid jerk: I BELIEVE that the hacktic meets are every other year, i.e. not this year. Yeah, I know, I'm gutted too, I was planning on going to this one. As for an IRC meet, everyone seems to be into it but no-one has suggested a date/time..umm..how's about 11pm, 29th May (sunday, 1 week tomorrow) on channel #U_access ?? bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: General Mail Number: [30] of [50] Title: hi/red boxes From: Tornado Of Souls [122] Time: Sat May 21 22:58:39 1994 hi you may have noticed im a new User sorry if I come across a bit lame someone recently gave me these numbers ..euro space agency dissemination centre 071 6309466 (7E1) and NASA 0101 205 895 0028 the ESA is a good one supporting vt100 ant tty the nasa one has a modem hanging on it but i havent verified it is actually NASA. Regarding red boxing in the US I was wondering if /how BT signal the machine that a coin has been inserted ? is there a similar tone system or is it completely different? if there is a similar way to red box will the phone cut off the mouth /earpiece untill you insert the minimum required amount like some boxes in the states where you have to put in your dime whatever first. I gather they eventually got round this. gotta go now im running out of time. CHeerZ ToS bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: General Mail Number: [31] of [50] Title: Boxing Phucked, Trun From: Archaos [104] Time: Sat May 21 23:36:45 1994 Regarding IRC....Can anyone give details on any telnetable IRC addresses - ones which don't need a port number to telnet to as using the guest telnet on uni does not allow this... Cheers, Archaos. bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: General Mail Number: [32] of [50] Title: Boxing Phucked, Trun From: George King [87] Time: Sun May 22 00:08:25 1994 I'll post a system/id for peeps who aint got access to irc to use, say, the day before (one week today?) - I won't post it now cos some git will immediately go hack it :) bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: General Mail Number: [33] of [50] Title: Boxing Phucked, Trun From: Gilby [72] Time: Sun May 22 00:23:52 1994 Please put that number up - would much appriciate it ! Thanks bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: General Mail Number: [34] of [50] Title: Boxing Phucked, Trun From: st00pid jErk [109] Time: Sun May 22 00:42:57 1994 G.K. - re. Hactick: well seeing as the last con (galactic Hacker...ne1 remember that 1? :) i guess 1998 will be the next! *8-) bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: General Mail Number: [35] of [50] Title: Boxing Phucked, Trun From: st00pid jErk [109] Time: Sun May 22 00:44:36 1994 hmmm...you could try irc.demon.co.uk...no port needed there.... .:st00pid jErk:. bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: General Mail Number: [36] of [50] Title: boxing back 2 the uk From: SJC [93] Time: Sun May 22 01:23:07 1994 This is as far as I know not correct. The codes have changes due to B.T. phoneday. I have spoken to some of my contacts within B.T. and that is what I am told..... I am also trying to find out the new international codes. If the lines can still be broken then we are all in with a shout so don't give up ..... bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: General Mail Number: [37] of [50] Title: Keep trying !!! From: Jono Bono [194] Time: Sun May 22 04:04:51 1994 Hi All Blueboxing is OK, I can call the whole of Europe now! who the fuck wants to speak to Europe, we're having enough trouble trying to join with Europe. Well, as others have said you can still break lines and get the tones excepted, fuck the BT engineer (even though I used to be one) he doesn't know what here's talking about. The routing has changed due to phone day hence all international routing has changed! ALL OF YOU WITH LOTS OF TIME, unlike myself. use BlueBeeps Script language to hack new codes, it shouldn't take to long, unless someone has already done it . We have got to get back on there to make the traffic seem normal, at the moment, they are probably wondering why it has gone so quiet after a route change !!! so get on with it and put the fuckers at rest. YEA! ....Jono bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: General Mail Number: [38] of [50] Title: HAckTic From: Phantasm [1] Time: Sun May 22 08:19:24 1994 Last years HackTic conference was excellent. If anyone finds out the date for the next conference, please let us all know in advance. I hear that 2600 magazine have recently announced a conference in the USA. Here are all the details currently available. See the Summer 1994 issue for more. The hackers on planet earth convention 13th and 14th of August, 1994 Hotel Pennsylvania, New York City. I will post more details as they become available, Phantasm (SysOp) uabbs@works.com bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: General Mail Number: [39] of [50] Title: Bono From: Hack10f [79] Time: Sun May 22 22:47:23 1994 JohnoBONEo Give Me a call ive got some pussy for you and i wont charge you ha.ha. and whats all this then ? (g)?? ow boy yep youve got it ow and that bird yea the one that takes her leg off she wants your number ********** yep she wants your you know what later dude ow HERMIE ... HaCk10F bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: General Mail Number: [40] of [50] Title: Keep trying !!! From: SJC [93] Time: Sun May 22 23:23:16 1994 If you can call the whole of Europe then can you give the rest of us some pointers ?? i.e. Do you know what the new code format is this would help us. Anyway good to know that somebody is successful..... bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: General Mail Number: [41] of [50] Title: USA con From: st00pid jErk [109] Time: Sun May 22 23:56:50 1994 hmmm...ne1 wanna get a prty together to attend this? flights to USA are usually dirt cheap at around that time of year.... .:st00pid jErk:. bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: General Mail Number: [42] of [50] Title: 0898s From: Flash [172] Time: Mon May 23 01:23:02 1994 Has anybody seen that little leaflet that comes with the phone bill? It says that from 25th July, everyone will be given an account number and PIN for when they call 0898 or 0338 numbers and you can charge the calls to your account from anywhere. So would it be poss. to find out someones account no. and PIN and have them pay for your dirty calls? It also says 'for a security PIN number application form, please call 0800 123 898', so would it be poss. for someone to get an account and PIN in someone elses name? bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: General Mail Number: [43] of [50] Title: Boxing Routing From: Jono Bono [194] Time: Mon May 23 04:08:19 1994 No I haven't found it all out yet, but it seems to be three digits instead of the original two&W>G, found this using bluebeeps scanner 001 etc doesn't get an anouncement. (on-0800-890-802) ...Jono bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: General Mail Number: [44] of [50] Title: DISK-MAGAZINE From: /\STERiX [88] Time: Mon May 23 22:04:55 1994 Hi all.. I am currently coding a disk based magazine for the AMIGA computers, if anyone would like to conribute to the magazine then please get in touch with me... acnt #88. Cheers. Magazine will be released every quarter.... Not neccessarily h/p stuff. Please do not write articles containing any codes!! Just a general informative mag!! === ASTERiX / AFL === bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: General Mail Number: [45] of [50] Title: Boxing within UK From: Kixx [20] Time: Mon May 23 23:30:01 1994 Does anybody know any way to box within U.K.???? bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: General Mail Number: [46] of [50] Title: 0500 From: Black Death [85] Time: Tue May 24 01:07:27 1994 ANYONE EVER SEIZED A 0500 AND CALLED any other country other than the one u are seizin?? bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: General Mail Number: [47] of [50] Title: Keep trying !!! From: Raven [102] Time: Tue May 24 02:18:11 1994 Well I am able to box to US, Germany, france e.t.c.....quite easy. The US one is very wierd though. bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: General Mail Number: [48] of [50] Title: 0500 From: Raven [102] Time: Tue May 24 02:19:49 1994 Well there was a time when we could box of 0500-890-066 ands a few others mate but that went with the changes. bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: General Mail Number: [49] of [50] Title: Keep trying !!! From: Blackthorn [117] Time: Tue May 24 23:16:03 1994 Raven..can you really, the only way i know died today (tuesday 16:00) do you know anyother methods? bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: General Mail Number: [50] of [50] Title: Boxing within UK From: Kixx [20] Time: Wed May 25 00:03:56 1994 FUCK ME! I didnt write that message < the previous one > which is said to be from ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Still, if anybody does find out of any way of boxing to Us/Europe etc... Chow. Kixx. bort ast ext uit ead again ail

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ost uit ead Board 5 choice? Read messages Read from [1,50]? 20 Area: Phone Phreaking Number: [20] of [50] Title: Well bugger me!! From: SJC [93] Time: Wed May 18 22:38:44 1994 I just learn how to do it and it gets changed! Bollocks. If anybody finds out the new country codes then please post them. I can not route through to the UK or the USA now. Ho hum............ bort ast ext uit ead again ail

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ost uit ead Board 5 choice? Read messages Read from [1,50]? 25 Area: Phone Phreaking Number: [25] of [50] Title: Think about how much From: Eck [137] Time: Fri May 20 06:42:50 1994 BT make UNBELIVABLE ammounts of money thru blueBoxers, just think on it 4p from the country EVERY time you call the number (and the defraded countery get the money (or a %age of the money) back from ATT who claim it back from a part of the us govt.) NOT to mentaion all the money they get from sell the filter THEY make to pleaces like germany... If you ask me it would not be in BT's best intrests to skupper BlueBoxers, mabys if all of a sudden BBing made it to the national press, then I'd watch out, but until then as far as I can see BT are making so much money.... Eck bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: Phone Phreaking Number: [26] of [50] Title: boxing back 2 the uk From: Eck [137] Time: Fri May 20 06:45:42 1994 Did anyone ever try (notice the past tense :]) dialing 41-7777xxx-st? all you got was engineers.. you can imaging my supprise when I tryed to call my bbs number and all i got was "Hello Engineers" in a deep scottish voice werid or what? bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: Phone Phreaking Number: [27] of [50] Title: DAROME From: Phantasm [1] Time: Fri May 20 19:11:52 1994 Here is the number for yet another company offering teleconferencing services. Give them a call on 0800-101-610 and be ready with your VISA, AMEX or Mastercard. I recommend calling from a payphone since you will be called back once the other conference members are connected. You may even book a conference in advance and get this --- have your conference recorded on a tape. If anyone is going to try this out, don't forget to have a false company name and address ready. And remember to thank the nice operator for assisting you with your enquiries. :-) Phantasm (SysOp) uabbs@works.com bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: Phone Phreaking Number: [28] of [50] Title: BT Blue boxing From: Blackthorn [117] Time: Fri May 20 22:50:16 1994 Harlequin i thought it was using the mf2/forward tonez bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: Phone Phreaking Number: [29] of [50] Title: BT Blue boxing From: George King [87] Time: Fri May 20 23:16:44 1994 As regards BT making money on blue boxers, I was given to understand that the foreign countries involved paid a flat rate for their line..that would mean that NO-ONE made money out of it (or lost it either, for that matter..) however, it seems obvious to me that they know (and have always known) who is bbing, they just don't seem to want to prosecute for some reason. Perhaps it's to avoid publicity, or maybe it's a 'better the devil you know' type situation, i.e. they can keep an eye on the guys who are bbing rather than have someone invent a new method of phreaking that they CAN'T keep an eye on..this would also mean that if someone released the next internet worm, theycould go round and arrest him immediately... Then again, maybe that's all complete crap :) - jus speculating bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: Phone Phreaking Number: [30] of [50] Title: BT Blue boxing From: George King [87] Time: Fri May 20 23:25:21 1994 So what IS the score with BBing at the moment then? The lines are still seizable..from what i can gather on here BT have just 'changed the routing codes'...is this DEFINITELY a measure to try & get rid of blue boxers? Surely the would just have made the lines un-seizable? If they have just changed the codes, is it a good idea to try and scan them out again, or can we expect a knock at the door for our troubles? Does anyone have any info on the possible length/format of the new routing codes? Can I suggest that if people are going to try and scan out the new codes, we organise some sort of scan on here...a division of labour would be a good idea so we can all get back to our 'hobby' asap. Also, if only one or two people have the new codes & start to BB, they are going to stick out like a sore thumb..safety in numbers and all that..what do you lot think? bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: Phone Phreaking Number: [31] of [50] Title: Organise From: SJC [93] Time: Sat May 21 01:10:21 1994 Well I agree with Georges message. We should organise our scanning efforts. To set the ball rolling I have found the following. KP2 118 081 390 1244C The 81 390 1244 bit is CIX this gives the engaged tone KP2 128 081 390 1244C We are sorry your call can not be connected also KP2 xxx where xxx is 138 148 158 198 give some results. Can anybody improve on this. Can anybode guess the new code format. Blue boxing is not dead, we just need to sort the latest problem. If we can break the lines we are 50% of the way there. So lets get to it!!!! bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: Phone Phreaking Number: [32] of [50] Title: Organise From: Gilby [72] Time: Sat May 21 01:57:08 1994 Right .. Here Here !! I think that there must be a way to rout a call through to the US ... I found out that if you dial +10176xxxxxx where xxxxx is anything at all you get an american ring and a number unobtainable message. Also, you can call hawaii with +10808xxxxxxx ... not too interesting you might think but if you call a number and actually connect (ie.8089236333) you can seizi the line again with KP. I have not managed to get it to dial out, but I also managed to find one number in the 808 area which will give the connecting "beep" and then a message saying this number is not on the dial list or someting (Sorry, i forgot the number). Then you don't have to piss people off waiting for them to answer their phones before you can seize and try and dial out. Keep trying everybody ! Eventually we will crack it ... L8tr Gilby/ bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: Phone Phreaking Number: [33] of [50] Title: ... From: Hi.T.Moonweed [45] Time: Sat May 21 02:16:36 1994 ok as to the new routing codes this is what i have found.. B1X176+ Bahamas B1X808+ hawaii B57X809+ Columbia B56X994+ Chile B62X178+ Philipines B886X133+ Taiwan B592X770+ Bolivia B27X119+ S.Africa interestingly the Taiwan and philipines routing can be used on 0500-890066 , on that # any other stuff gives me a recorded mesage 'this is mercury international...' .. weird.. oh and if you dont mind engineering operators a little its still easy enough to call anywhere on the old BB.. all you have to do is find the right operators heh.. bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: Phone Phreaking Number: [34] of [50] Title: ... From: George King [87] Time: Sat May 21 22:14:59 1994 Heh..well it looks as though my depression about blueboxing being dead was a bit premature..from the look of those previous messages I'm gonna end up being able to call MORE countries rather than less :) ... come back bluebeep, all is forgiven ! bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: Phone Phreaking Number: [35] of [50] Title: ... From: Archaos [104] Time: Sat May 21 23:48:44 1994 Hmm...I think that it is a bit strange that we are still ablt to sieze the lines. Has anyone ever actaully tried calling "the internation operator on 1...5...5":-) ? and asking them for the country code (well you know what i mean - social engineering and all that...). Maybe they have to leave the lines as siezeable so BT or whoever can use the lines for whatever they are usually used for- otherwise wouldn't they have to put in a whole new system? (anaotzher costly entzerprise...). Anyway, lets all get scanning/hacking/whatever and maybe we can come up with something for the good of the ubnderground community :-) Archaos. Damn sure I aint payying for calls to US (or UK and anywhere else if I can help it)... bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: Phone Phreaking Number: [36] of [50] Title: Boxing(yeah right bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: Phone Phreaking Number: [37] of [50] Title: Routing scans From: George King [87] Time: Sun May 22 00:13:59 1994 Right..well no-one seems to have come up with any ideas for the format for the new routing codes so loets start a scan now..sooner we start, sooner we'll find the us one :) .. I will start tonight and do 00-200 Any volunteers to carry on from there? No point in us all scanning the same ranges... bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: Phone Phreaking Number: [38] of [50] Title: Scanning club .... From: SJC [93] Time: Sun May 22 01:18:57 1994 Well done George !!! I have scanned the following with no success. KP2 0 081 390 1244 C to KP2 330 081 390 1244 C If you are starting at 00-200 I will start at 00-400 Call in tomorrow to compare results. It would be good if we could have this board up before 10pm at night at the weekend so we could advance quicker ? Anyway stick at it and make sure you post your results ......... bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: Phone Phreaking Number: [39] of [50] Title: Scanning club .... From: George King [87] Time: Sun May 22 07:41:49 1994 Hmm now you DO have me confuzed..:) .. I have scanned: KP2 00 516 751 2600 C to KP2 200 516 751 2600 C That is the 2600 magazine voice line in U.S....needless to say, not a sausage (unless you count some dude going on about TH COUNTRY CODE I WAS CALLING... exactly 201 times...git). Anyway, the point is this scan needs a) more manpower, and b) some sort of central organisation...Phantasm..sort it out m8 :) bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: Phone Phreaking Number: [40] of [50] Title: BB From: Gilby [72] Time: Sun May 22 21:24:50 1994 I wanted to figure out what the hell +10176 .... was getting us to, so i scanned for ages and eventually i managed to get through to a number .. It was +101763256103 - and when i asked the guy where he was at he said Barbados. Thus i guess you can still box to the 809 areacode. This is strange, because unlike 808, 809 isn't one of the usual 0800890xxx numbers. I'm not sure, but i found +10175 will also work. Haven't had time to scan that properly. Anyone else scanning the +10xxx prefix's and onwards of you get anywhere with one ? This could crack the boxing to the US (Maybe ... Not sure i know what the hell i'm talking about :) Keep trying, u can't do any harm ..... L8tr Gilby PS. Anyone out there help me out, I need to call the US for a short time only and I would appriciate if anyone has any CallingCards or suchlike methods. It's just for 5 weeks, so i would even pay some cash for 4 or 5 working cards. Mail me if you can help .... bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: Phone Phreaking Number: [41] of [50] Title: Scanning club .... From: SJC [93] Time: Sun May 22 23:19:04 1994 Sorry George I was not too clear.. I have scanned KP2 000 etc ... to KP2 330 etc .... i.e. it seems I have heard the same country code message 330 times now. If you carry on from 330 then I could try from 500 say. Hope this is OK. I will use the same telephone number that you are using i.e. 2600 magazine voice line. While I'm typing this, IS ANYBODY ELSE WILLING TO HELP US !!!! Please post and join in. bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: Phone Phreaking Number: [42] of [50] Title: Scanning club .... From: George King [87] Time: Sun May 22 23:46:42 1994 OK...I will continue with KP 201 516 751 2600 C to KP 500 516 751 2600 C If anyone else wants to join in, maybe some people would be willing to scan the 10xxx range as Gilby suggests.. Incidentally I looked up a leaflet on phoneday last night, and it said that the SUBSCRIBER international access code was going to change from 010 to 00 on phoneday , 'This is part of a programme to make it consistent throughout Europe'. Can anyone on here manage to box a call to a uk operator? If so it may be possible to bullshit them out of the routing codes we want..in the meanwhile I will continue scanning....I WOULD appreciate some help though..c'mon guys, leave a message stating what range you are willing to scan and GET TO IT! bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: Phone Phreaking Number: [43] of [50] Title: Scanning club .... From: Dippledo [36] Time: Mon May 23 02:28:20 1994 I'll see if I can get some help on this as in Germany they can now box Global..... Dippledo.. bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: Phone Phreaking Number: [44] of [50] Title: boxing back 2 the uk From: Oregon Kowboy [143] Time: Mon May 23 03:41:10 1994 Is your bord (underground cove) back up? bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: Phone Phreaking Number: [45] of [50] Title: New Code Format From: SJC [93] Time: Mon May 23 23:24:27 1994 George.... Glad you got the message. I will scan from 500. According to somebody who has posted in the general section the new code probably has 3 digits instead of the old 2 digit format. If this is the case then we can't be too far away can we ? Stick at it........ Also MORE HELP REQUIRED !!!! Come on lets have some help. Can somebody scan from 700 to 900 ? All help gratefully accepted ...... bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: Phone Phreaking Number: [46] of [50] Title: :) From: Blackthorn [117] Time: Tue May 24 00:08:38 1994 hello peeps.. just wondering if anyone has come across anything strange on mercury lines, i have found you can now box to cyprus on 0500 890 357 also..does anyone know if boxing is still possible in other states of europe, coz i need a method 2 calll back on me holiday. l8r Stay Safe bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: Phone Phreaking Number: [47] of [50] Title: Blue Boxing is back! From: /\STERiX [88] Time: Tue May 24 22:27:47 1994 Okay lads, it is still possible to box, I have only done this to the states dunno if it is global did not check... 0800-890-679, routing : b-1-areacode-number-C. THE LINE IS VERY CRAP! It is unsuitable for a modem but voice calls to people and party lines are ok... Use while lasts!! ;-) === /\STERiX/AFL === bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: Phone Phreaking Number: [48] of [50] Title: Organise From: Blackthorn [117] Time: Tue May 24 23:19:53 1994 skj: it is no use trying to find the routings to call back to the uk, even if you did find em, I would hope no one would use em, as all that will happen is boxing will die totally that is why it died last week, to many uk boxers, Bt were losing money, as such stopped it bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: Phone Phreaking Number: [49] of [50] Title: Blue Boxing is back! From: Hack10f [79] Time: Tue May 24 23:47:09 1994 Blue boxing is down again i found that number 679 last night i used it today and its (broken) yep it dont work no more weard because that one from sources it has noting to do with mci or telecm its fuji telecom oparato weard and why has the break tone sound a litle weard when you break the line last night it was a short tone send back but if you break it now its sounds like 808-059-?? well that is weard and all so you get please dial 151 for you oparator and you did noit get that before happy hacking.. Hack10f bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Next Area: Phone Phreaking Number: [50] of [50] Title: boxing back 2 the uk From: Kixx [20] Time: Wed May 25 00:07:35 1994 As far as i can make out, well put it this way, if i was BT i would like more & more blue boxers, coz wiv 0800 #'s it's the reciever ( Operator ) who picks up the bill (i fink) and this is making B.T. dosh! Yes? Is it still poss to box into the UK from the UK or has that also gone now? Chow. Kixx. bort ast ext uit ead again ail

ublic reply Message option? Public reply Press with no input to abort Enter a title: boxing back 2 the uk Hit on a blank line to end input 1>well its dead again ... if you want a chat about it call me tommorow or 2>any day after 1pm (tommorow after 4pm) on 041-7794095 ask for Dillon ... 3>I managed to gets ome info out of a BT 'fishall but not too much ... 4> L8r 5> 6>Z 7> Edit (?,A,C,D,E,F,H,L,R,S) -=>Saving... Area: Phone Phreaking Number: [50] of [50] Title: boxing back 2 the uk From: Znote [82] Time: Wed May 25 03:23:23 1994 well its dead again ... if you want a chat about it call me tommorow or any day after 1pm (tommorow after 4pm) on 041-7794095 ask for Dillon ... I managed to gets ome info out of a BT 'fishall but not too much ... L8r Z bort ast ext uit ead again ail

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