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4413: Re: [MUD-Dev] You, the game of philosophy.

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From: "Jon A. Lambert" <jlsysinc@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups: nu.kanga.list.mud-dev
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 01:32:18 -4
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Organization: Kanga.Nu
On 10 Dec 97 at 21:33, coder@ibm.net wrote:
> On 20/11/97 at 08:17 PM, Ola Fosheim Gr=B0stad <olag@ifi.uio.no> said: >=
Adam
> Wiggins <nightfall@user1.inficad.com> wrote:
> >>[Ola Fosheim Gr stad:]
> >>> Isn't holding the idea that some players are "bad" a very dangerous
> >>> position for a designer to hold??
> >>
> >>I hardly think so.  It's merely a fact.
> 
> >Even if we assume "the fact", it is still a dangerous state of mind for=
 a
> >designer, unless of course, you don't give a hoot about anybody but
> >yourself.
> 
> The scale I use:
> 
>   A Bad Player is one who has ceased to strive to extract, determine, an=
d
> achieve his own goals from the game in front of him.  A subset of these
> are those who then attempt to achieve their goals through persuasion
> rather than direct action: typically whining.

I would mention that "whining" is a significant tool in diplomacy-type
games.  ;)

Of course I realize you likely refer to that OutofGame "whining" that
might occur between a player and administrator.  Player to player
"whining" is OK in my book.
 
--
Jon A. Lambert
"Everything that deceives may be said to enchant" - Plato