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From: clawrenc@cup.hp.com
Newsgroups: nu.kanga.list.mud-dev
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 97 17:10:54 -0700
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In <01IK40LS7M3690PX67@nova.wright.edu>, on 06/15/97
at 03:31 PM, S001GMU@nova.wright.edu said:
>From: clawrenc@cup.hp.com
>>In <01IK0ROHGSBM90PQJB@nova.wright.edu>, on 06/13/97
>> at 09:29 AM, S001GMU@nova.wright.edu said:
[Shoehorn, 2 people and 15 tiny objects.... ]
>>>I'd be tempted to add a scale to each neighborhood. The scale would
>>>be a range of object sizes allowable within that neighborhood.
>>>anything too big or two small gets shuffled into a neighborhood of
>>>the appropriate scale, creating a new one if none exists.
>>>Neighborhoods of differing scale can overlap eachother with no real
>>>problems.
>>
>>The problem is that scale does not denote suitability for receiving a
>>message. Should the player currently inhabiting the body of a flea
>>not receive the mesage while the troll he's biting will receive the
>>message?
>A tiny creature has a vastly different range of vision from a giant
>creature (in general... yes I know there are exceptions on both
>sides). A flea on the rabbit that got pulled out of the hat may only
>know that suddenly it is light out rather than dark, and a dragon in
>the next room may not even notice that those puny mortals are doing
>much of anything. What you see is entirely a matter of scale.
The exceptions that you reference are what define this as an invalid
model. We cannot safely define the suitability of an event for an
object as a function of the object's size. What's worse, we can't
even define the suitability as a function of size, and then add in a
special-case function to track the exceptions -- it just gets too
nasty.
>>I don't see that scale offers a value here.
>I disagree. :)
Now this not to say that neighborhoods should not segregate their
members on the basis of some criteria so that two neighborhoods which
occupy a single coordinate range may each contain objects the other
does not. *That* I think is a profitable avenue to explore. Its
using scale as the criteria that I don't see as workable.
>>>Are there any glaring problems with that? I've had some difficulty
>>>following exactly what you guys are talking about, but that probably
>>>stems from not really reading the first couple of messages too
>>>thuroughly. Will have ot go back and re-read those. ;)
>>
>>Marian asked a similar question. I'll attempt to recap later today or
>>tomorrow.
>Thanks. :)
Its now obviously later than that tomorrow. I'm still trying to
scrape time together for a summary. I hope by tomorrow.
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