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From: "Michael Sellers" <mike@onlinealchemy.com>
Newsgroups: nu.kanga.list.mud-dev
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 14:11:19 -0500
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Organization: Kanga.Nu
HRose wrote:
> What I mean is that the design defines the behaviour and it's
> silly to design after a behaviour. The behaviour is consequent to
> the design, not causing the design. My rule is that if griefing
> happens in a game it means that the design of that game is bad. As
> simple as that. This is why a well designed game simply doesn't
> have to deal with griefers and doesn't need to create specific
> rules for them.
What "well designed games" are you thinking of that don't have
griefing issues? I'd be very interested in examples of which games
you're thinking of.
I agree that the prevalence of griefing behaviors are a sign of
social pathology, and that this comes from inadequate social design
(I don't just mean chat or guilds or buddy lists either). But I
think you're overstating the case considerably to say that any game
with griefing has a bad design and that good games don't have to
deal with griefing.
Mike Sellers
Online Alchemy
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