From: TURTLE To: BURNEY Subject: term prgs. Date & Time: 10/28/90 22:53:06 Message Number 10051 I haven't heard of any external line filters for computer systems, but I'm sure such a device isn't impossible. BYE does it in software by weeding out certain characters and character combinations, like curly braces and things of that nature, but the result is you can't use those characters in messages. In theory, it should be possible to build some sort of line filter, although I suspect it'd be of somewhat limited usefulness, since it wouldn't be able to fill in missing information that wasn't simply obscured by static... =========== From: TURTLE To: BEATLE Subject: An issue Date & Time: 10/28/90 22:57:10 Message Number 10052 On the subject of drug legalization: Depends on which drugs we're talking about. Drugs like pot, it'd be a damn good idea; when it comes right down to it, weed is a safer intoxicant than alcohol, it's easy enough to produce that you can't really control it effectively by outlawing it (unlike things like heroin or PCP, you don't exactly need a full-fledged lab to produce it), and the money we're wasting to fight it could be used for other things. Harder drugs like PCP and crack: No way. They are simply too dangerous and too destructive. On the other hand, I think we're fighting them in a totally asinine way; as long as there is a demand for them they will be supplied, period, and no force known to man is going to prevent that from happening. Only by attacking the root of the problem, by way of things like drug education, Federally-sponsored drug rehab programs (most private programs cost between four hundred and a thousand dollars a day, for Christ's sake!) and other efforts aimed at the demand are we likely to see significant results. Incidentally, while the DEA is crowing over the fact that a price of a key in Miami has gone up from $16K to about $24K in the last year, it appears that that's more because all the Columbian drug lords are in the process of moving to Brazil than because the interdiction program is actually /working/. It also doesn't really mean a whole lot from the street point of view; the price per gram's been hovering at around $120 for a long time, it's just that it's heavily stepped-on now whereas a couple of years ago it was commonplace to find 85% pure coke on the streets. That's rather uncool from a public health point of view, since the stuff tends to get cut with everything from Borax to fiberglass filler...thank you George Bush, you always have the well- being of your citizens in mind. =========== From: TURTLE To: BURNEY Subject: furry art Date & Time: 10/28/90 23:08:07 Message Number 10053 >>Furry art...long story... >We're listen'n Well, there was this party, see, and... =========== From: TURTLE To: BURNEY Subject: David Duke Date & Time: 10/28/90 23:09:10 Message Number 10054 >People are a product of their environment. That goes for religion, >personal prejudices, political views, etc. There is more than a little evidence to suggest that fear and hatred of people who are different from yourself is biologically-based, rather than learned. From an evolutionary standpoint, people who are not members of your group represent competition for the same resources you need, and are therefore potential threats; also, the best way to ensure the survival of your own genetic line is to eradicate other lines that share the same ecological niche as you do. It's an outdated and obsolete instinct, but it's still largely instinct. =========== From: TURTLE To: DIONYSUS Subject: PS/1 Date & Time: 10/28/90 23:14:34 Message Number 10056 While I'll admit there's a certain apropriateness to buying a PS/1 in a K-Mart, the fact remains that they're staggeringly bad computers at an obnoxiously overinflated price, which two facts means that the people who own them are for some inexplicable reason insufferably proud of them. The problem /there/ is that these same people, who probably can't even spell "PS/1" to begin with, much less "8086" or "68000," become a rather significant market force that encourages the develop- ment of tens of thousands of bad PS/1 word processors and other dippy applications at the cost of development for more interesting machines. Then you start to see bad prots from IBM's cropping up on Amigas and other, more powerful computers, and you see whole industries grow up with the entirely unfounded notion that only by developing applications for IBM hardware to the exclusion or near- exclusion of all other machines can they stay in business, which only increases the arrogance of the people who spent too much on PS/1's to begin with, and, well, I get annoyed. =========== From: TURTLE To: ALL Subject: Mythagoras Date & Time: 10/28/90 23:20:26 Message Number 10057 Mythagoras #3 is here! It sports a beautiful four-color cover, and features stories and artwork by Terrie Smith, Paul Kidd, Watts Martin, Eric Blumrich, Chuck Mellvile, and others (including "UltraSheep" by Dirty Wrat & yours truly...) Cover price is $3.95 per issue (48 pages). It will be available at the Time Machine in Bradenton within the next few weeks, or if you can't wait you can pick up an issue from me (got some of the first batch to come off the press!). =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: TURTLE Subject:  Date & Time: 10/29/90 01:55:05 Message Number 10060 I believe that Pres. Bush recieved a letter from a drug lord coalition thanking him for the interdiction. Some thing about shoring up the drug prices... =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: ALL Subject: words of wisdom Date & Time: 10/29/90 03:06:26 Message Number 10061 Sex should friendly. Otherwise stick to mechanical toys... ...It's more sanitary. =========== From: MAX To: BEATLE Subject: Add another Date & Time: 10/29/90 21:10:23 Message Number 10062 > Someone let me know if I'm wrong, but does it seem the dark and light > extremes have been mentioned in these arguments and not the shades of > grey?? Gosh, you mean there's grey in these pictures, too? Got to change that dithering algorithm. Rats. The idea that there's more than two sides to most issues seems to be quite beyond a lot of people; the idea that there's more than one way of looking at the /same/ side is fuzzy to even more. If someone burns the flag, they are symbolically burning the country. If this wasn't the case, there wouldn't be any reason /anyone/ got upset over it. But are they being disrespectful to the ideals of the Constitution, or are they being disrespectful to the practice of it? As a case in point, there was an art exhibit here a while ago which had an American flag partly dipped in a pool of oil. Everyone was outraged over it; the museum was broken into twice, and eventually the exhibit was removed. The artist's point, however, was that American ideals are being held hostage to the interests of big business (such as oil companies), and that as the environment is destroyed by such lack of foresight, America goes with it. It sounds to me like the "flag desecrator" was more patriotic, perhaps, than those denying him the right to make that comment. Most flag-burning cases can't make the same claim, but even so, the reason that America was actually founded was because English citizens were tired of having no ability to voice their criticisms of their government. This is why freedom of speech, with /no/ conditionals about patriotism, was guaranteed in the Bill of Rights to begin with -- to make sure that American citizens have the right to criticize their government. Whether or not you violently disagree with flag-burning (or it makes you violently ill, even), the day that the flag-burners absolutely cannot make their point in that manner is the day they have won. =========== From: MAX To: SPELLWIND Subject: ST:TNG Date & Time: 10/29/90 21:22:47 Message Number 10063 > I compare Poseidon, Zeus, and Hades to Ares.... Then by all means, I compare Hecate and Athene. They're both Greek and female and occasionally invoked by Smurf Wiccans who don't grok the concept completely. =========== From: MAX To: SPELLWIND Subject: You HOSERS Date & Time: 10/29/90 21:28:39 Message Number 10064 Why do you bother reading "Savage Sword of Conan" if you're a modern, enlightened male? (Or for that matter, literate and past the age of 13?) You have to figure that most of the big Conan fans are big, ultra-macho types anyway. > Tell me, do ALL Marines think like this scumbag? Well, a friend of mine who used to run a BBS was one of the biggest fans of "Erma Felna, EDF" that I can think of; it was a military sf story about a flight commander who, among other things, faced a great deal of prejudice because of her sex (in the first few issues, she was sent into battle because the original commander was stuck on another planet and she was the highest-ranking qualified officer left, and she ended up becoming a hero of the battle, something the higher brass wasn't too pleased with). It is about the furthest thing from Conan that I can think of in terms of philosophy, characterization, writing and (especiall when you talk about the Marvel Conan) overall quality I can think of. This friend also happens to be a Green Beret. =========== From: MAX To: TURTLE Subject: Christian affai Date & Time: 10/29/90 21:46:38 Message Number 10065 > And why was it a closed world during the Dark Ages, hmm? The fall of the Roman Empire cannot be blamed on Christianity. That the Catholic Church was the institution that tried to fill the gap could be considered unfortunate, or at least the attitudes (primarily the one that knowledge is reserved for priests) that came with it. However, it moved in, one suspects, because it was the only institution around that was able to. > In any event, I'm not convinced that going out and killing your > neighbors is a legitimate alternative to remaining isolationist... It isn't. However, the Crusades were, in a sense, latecomers to a long legacy of killing your neighbors in that region. Your earlier comment about the Islamic nations being kinder to strangers only holds true if those strangers aren't a perceived threat, just like Chrisitanity -- or a lot of other "empires." The fight over the "holy lands" of Islam, Judaism and Christendom was around before the Crusades and has persisted long, long after. While it's certainly not a defense of Christianity, I suspect that the reason the list of "charges" against the religion is so long is that it's been the predominant institution in the Western World and thus has had the time and power to screw things up to a much greater extent than other institutions. Assuming that a state of anarchy can't exist in a region for too long, since it's really a fundamentally more unstable situation than an empire beset by enemies, I have serious doubts as to whether any of the likely alternatives to the Holy Roman Empire would have a significantly better track record. =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: ALL WHO WILL LISTEN Subject: Navel's Date & Time: 10/29/90 23:53:04 Message Number 10068 Did Adam And Eve Have Navels? =========== From: DIONYSUS To: TURTLE Subject: PS/1 Date & Time: 10/30/90 01:25:10 Message Number 10069 Well, you have a right to be annoyed; but do you have a right to say that they are /really/ trashy computers? I mean, their popularity has to say something for them. Apparently, some people are a hell of a lot more impressed with them than you are. =========== From: DIONYSUS To: THUMPER 1 Subject: words of wisdom Date & Time: 10/30/90 01:31:41 Message Number 10071 Sex shouldn't rabid. So stay away from small animals... ...It's safer. =========== From: DIONYSUS To: THUMPER 1 Subject: Navel's Date & Time: 10/30/90 01:35:34 Message Number 10072 No, but they had Movets and Pivassos. =========== From: MAX To: DIONYSUS Subject: PS/1 Date & Time: 10/30/90 21:36:38 Message Number 10073 > I mean, their popularity has to say something for them. The Commodore-64 is still the best-selling microcomputer of all time, yet its heyday came and went during the MS-DOS reign. "Rambo" was also an immensely popular movie, and in fact, all of the top 5 money-making movies with the exception of "Batman" are sequels. So, it would seem that (a) popularity is not an indication of quality, and (b) people would rather stick with the known and trite rather than the new and (potentially) daring. The PS/1 is new, but only in terms of case design. People are impressed with it because it's a "low end" 286 machine with IBM's name on it and VGA graphics inside. That's all fine and dandy, but you can get true 16-bit machines with comparable graphics for less, both in the MS-DOS architecture and out. It is still bundled with business applications -- fairly mediocre ones, by MS-DOS standards -- and has a rather boneheaded GUI to make things almost, but not quite, as easy as a Macintosh. (As Byte magaztem a direct question and get a reply. It works too. It's just all that DATA!!!!!!!!!!! =========== From: TURTLE To: THUMPER 1 Subject: Navel's Date & Time: 10/31/90 00:10:48 Message Number 10076 >Did Adam And Eve Have Navels? Does God have hands? If so, does he ever use them for anything? For that matter, can god create a boulder that's so heavy he can't lift it? Enquiring minds want to know! =========== From: TURTLE To: DIONYSUS Subject: PS/1 Date & Time: 10/31/90 00:12:03 Message Number 10077 >...do you have the right to say that they are /really/ trashy >computers? I mean, their popularity has to say something for them. >Apparantly, some people are a hell of a lot more impressed with them >than you are. Their popularity doesn't say a bloody damn thing about /them,/ it says something for IBM's marketing muscle. Popularity and quality are two totally unrelated concepts. Yes, some people are impressed with them. Most of those people have never used another computer, or never used another computer more sophisticated than a C=64. Again, has nothing to do with the quality of the machine itself. I don't like it because it's not expandable, it's outrageously overpriced, it's based on a slow and not terribly well-designed architecture, it runs an eight-bit operating system that was obsolete in 1984 on a sixteen-bit processor that was specifically designed for a bus it's not using, it's con- structed with surface-mount technology that makes it, essentially, a throwaway computer (you can't service or repair the motherboard), it claims to have VGA graphics but is limited to a tiny color palette, it's billed as the ultimate easy-to-use machine but in actuality its user interface is neither as sophisticated nor as intuitive as the Apple interface it was ripped from, it's underpowered, particularly for the price, and its sole purpose in life is as a marketing ploy to wedge IBM farther into the PC market (and even IBM will tell you that). Other than that, the only thing I object to about it is that it's built on a pathetic bus and it's ugly. =========== From: TURTLE To: DIONYSUS Subject: words of wisdom Date & Time: 10/31/90 00:23:04 Message Number 10078 Sex shouldn't be purple. So stay away from pastels... ...It's gaudy. =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: SPELLWIND Subject: Bigotry Date & Time: 10/31/90 17:22:21 Message Number 10079 I, also, despise bigotry. But I've seen bigotry from both genders, and all races. No group is free. /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: SPELLWIND Subject: Christian affai Date & Time: 10/31/90 17:24:20 Message Number 10080 To be frank, I'm quite confused by your message. For example, what gods exist within Buddhism? The Buddha clearly taught that he was NOT to be worshipped. Secondly, what do the Egyptian gods Anubis or Osiris have to do with Buddhism? I agree: one of the two was much more friendly than the other; but they were certainly not the only gods worshipped. Hail Aten! /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: TURTLE Subject: Georgie Date & Time: 10/31/90 17:36:39 Message Number 10081 First and foremost, I've never advocated the permanent loss of the Federal government. I've only applauded when George shut down the government because of Congress. I wish he had kept it shut down until Congress came up with a satisfactory budget. I have said that if the Federal government failed, we would survive. Definitely not as well; definitely with more problems between states; but we would survive. /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: TURTLE Subject: Christian affai Date & Time: 10/31/90 17:41:15 Message Number 10082 >And why was it a closed world during the Dark Ages, hmm? Not due to Christianity! Again, I claim that the fall of the Roman Empire (and the fall of its communications) was the cause of the Dark Ages. The fact that Christianity tried to maintain order during that time was not the cause. >I'm not convinced that going out and killing your neighbors is a >legitimate alternative to remaining isolationist... Basically, both war and complete isolationism scare me. Frankly, I'm enough of a pragmatist to say that the ends (the Rennaissance) somewhat justified the Crusades. /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: TURTLE Subject: Christian affai Date & Time: 10/31/90 17:46:46 Message Number 10083 >Astronomy was a Persian invention. Persia was Muslim. Ahem? Turtle, I thought you were reasonably intelligent. Astronomy existed well before Islam existed. >The science of history, I believe, is credited to the Muslims. Really? There were quite a few historians in the Roman empire. Granted, many of them were rather one-sided. But they were historians still. /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: BURNEY Subject: Cmdr Date & Time: 10/31/90 17:50:53 Message Number 10084 >There are more CBM's out there than any other computer any where. Really? Where's your source for that information? /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: BEATLE Subject: An issue Date & Time: 10/31/90 17:53:01 Message Number 10085 My opinions on drug legalization? A doctor should be allowed to prescribe any medication his medical opinion says would help his patient. Quite sincerely, my life has been saved twice by medications not available in the United States. (I was not in the U.S. at the time.) The medication was considered too highly addictive for use in the States, but it was ideal for my illness. /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: BURNEY Subject: David Duke Date & Time: 10/31/90 18:00:35 Message Number 10086 >People are a product of there environment. Exactly. That's one of the reasons why I advocate the idea of a 'global village' instead of nationalistic ideas. /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: TURTLE Subject: An issue Date & Time: 10/31/90 18:10:34 Message Number 10087 But, Turtle -- don't you realize? It's so much flashier to burn down drug fields than it is to try to stop the demand! And it makes much better films when re-election time comes around. /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: THUMPER 1 Subject: words of wisdom Date & Time: 10/31/90 18:13:37 Message Number 10088 >Sex should friendly. Otherwise stick to mechanical toys... it's >more sanitary. I hate Lazarus Long. /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: THUMPER 1 Subject: Navel's Date & Time: 10/31/90 18:18:34 Message Number 10089 >Did Adam and Eve Have Navels? Probably. And they probably had every other kind of orange. /Dragonfly/ =========== From: KEN SABLE To: OVER 600 MESSAGES Subject: And Noone Date & Time: 10/31/90 18:43:01 Message Number 10090 Writes me! ::Sniff:: NOBODY LOVES ME ANYMORE! ::WAAAHHHHH!:: At any rate, here I am calling after not calling after a week or so, and I'm not going to even /attempt/ to read all the messages! Don't forget: The Armadillo Connection 813/378-2218 8N124 -Sable- =========== From: BURNEY To: BEATLE Subject: Cmdr Date & Time: 10/31/90 19:13:55 Message Number 10092 I hava a friend with an AMIGA. He uses it to do video transfer work (title screens and such). He is very busy but says when he gets the time, its back to the Commodore. I hav a C64 hopefully a 128 soon. =========== From: BURNEY To: BEATLE Subject: geeks Date & Time: 10/31/90 19:17:23 Message Number 10093 If you wqnt to talk about social outcasts, lemme tell you about myself in high school. I was one of those geeks, and to top that I didn't pay attention. 2 strikes. I'm much better now (thankyou doctor). It will change in time. Now I don't give a damn what any one thinks about me personally (or my spelling...not always the best). Give it time. How old are you (Email if privacy desired) if I may be so bold as to ask? =========== From: BURNEY To: BEATLE Subject: Drg legal. Date & Time: 10/31/90 19:22:33 Message Number 10094 Some one who works for me just returned from Amsterdam. There he took several photos of people on the public streets in broad daylight shooting up. I dont think its a good idea. =========== From: BURNEY To: TURTLE Subject: furry art Date & Time: 10/31/90 19:33:16 Message Number 10096 >Well, there was this party, see, and... Yeah...Yeah...(pant, pant) =========== From: BURNEY To: THUMPER 1 Subject: Navel's Date & Time: 10/31/90 19:46:01 Message Number 10098 UM....do you mean belly buttons? =========== From: BURNEY To: DRAGONFLY Subject: Cmdr Date & Time: 10/31/90 19:54:57 Message Number 10099 To be perfectly honest, I dont have a source. I was gonig on the premis someone told me, and its been confirmed through many individuals. For instance there is an earlier message than this one who says the same thing. (somewhere around #10045) =========== From: BURNEY To: DRAGONFLY Subject: David Duke Date & Time: 10/31/90 19:58:45 Message Number 10100 Forgive this poor slobs ignorance, but what do you mean by 'global villa ge' =========== From: BURNEY To: KEN SABLE Subject: And Noone Date & Time: 10/31/90 20:01:25 Message Number 10101 Hey I know what you mean. I've been busy lately and its hell trying to keep up with all the messages in your allotted time. =========== From: DIONYSUS To: TURTLE Subject: words of wisdom Date & Time: 10/31/90 21:44:54 Message Number 10102 So what's wrong with incestuous sex? That's what brothels are for. =========== From: DIONYSUS To: DRAGONFLY Subject: Navel's Date & Time: 10/31/90 21:48:02 Message Number 10103 I wonder what they did with the lint... =========== From: ABARACUS To: ALL Subject: hello Date & Time: 10/31/90 22:17:11 Message Number 10104 hello all, i just called to see whats going on here... I didnt know that this bbs was still up, (how long have you had this bbs up about 2 years or so??) later all... =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: DIONYSUS Subject: Parts is parts. Date & Time: 11/01/90 00:21:36 Message Number 10105 You forgot about the Snozwanglers and the Vermiscious Cnids... =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: TURTLE Subject: God Date & Time: 11/01/90 00:23:16 Message Number 10106 All gods have feet of clay, so make sure they wipe their feet before coming inside. =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: DRAGONFLY Subject: Heinlein Date & Time: 11/01/90 00:24:42 Message Number 10107 Lazarus Long drives me up the wall too. But Heinlein! Now there was one twisted mother-forker. Did you ever read "The cat that walks through walls"? Great book. Or try "Number of the Beast." Can you figure out where this quote's from?(Or who it's from?) "Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. It will wash over and through me. When it is gone, Only I will Remain." =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: DRAGONFLY Subject: Oranges Date & Time: 11/01/90 00:30:21 Message Number 10108 Aaaaahhhhh! But! Were they Manderin? Or just Limen? =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: BURNEY Subject: navels Date & Time: 11/01/90 00:31:39 Message Number 10109 No. Oranges actually. Yes!!!!!! Belly-Buttons! =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY Subject: ?????????? Date & Time: 11/01/90 00:36:22 Message Number 10110 I'm sitting here typing (badly) and I wonder... I can see in this room, but when the lights go out, is it all really there? If I convinced myself that it wasn't, would it be? (If I stopped taking the drugs would I still right stupid messages like this?) If I took more drugs, Would your replys seem different? Is this relevent? Are you relevent? Does any one care? ....Probably not.... ...I don't. Manic deppression is hard to deal with at 1:00 am eh? =========== From: BEATLE To: TURTLE Subject: An issue Date & Time: 11/01/90 19:18:06 Message Number 10111 Yes, that would be the type of thing I was thinking of. Leagalizing a drug like crack would be VERY stupid... =========== From: BEATLE To: TURTLE Subject: Mythagoras Date & Time: 11/01/90 19:21:02 Message Number 10112 > Cover price is $3.95... Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! Me want Mythagoras NOW! Mine! Mine! Mine! It's times like these when I wish I had a car, or at least a license to drive alone... =========== From: BEATLE To: DIONYSUS Subject: PS/1 Date & Time: 11/01/90 19:26:54 Message Number 10113 > do you have a right to say that they are /really/ trashy computers? In a word, yes. > ...has to say something for them. Apparently, some people are a hell > of a lot more impressed with them than you are. It's been mentioned around here many times that the sales of a computer have no bearing whatsoever on the quality of said computer. I mean 2 Live Crew sold tons of records, and their music is the worst thing I've ever heard called "music". Also, most people might buy a PS/1 because the support is good or they just don't want a different computer and don't know what else is out there... I myself don't trust a computer in which you must replace a large portion of the machine any time a smaller part breaks down. =========== From: BEATLE To: MAX Subject: PS/1 Date & Time: 11/01/90 19:32:34 Message Number 10114 Allow me to jump in with some more useless facts... Last time I checked (and I like to often), the top-grossing film of all-time was "E.T." negating the comment that the 5 top money makers except "Batman" were sequels. Plus, I would like to ask why you seem to imply that a sequel indicates lower quality. Some of the top money making sequels, namely "The Empire Strikes Back" and "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade", have been VERY high quality products... =========== From: BEATLE To: DRAGONFLY Subject: An issue Date & Time: 11/01/90 19:38:24 Message Number 10115 > And it makes much better films when re-election time comes around. One of the things that keeps me amused through my years of growing up is the absurdity of politics. There are too many things to mention here, but I certainly hope it's more of a useful system when I get old enough to vote. I'm too lazy to run, however... but then again, isn't that one of the things that would make an almost typical politician? =========== From: BEATLE To: BURNEY Subject: geeks Date & Time: 11/01/90 19:42:47 Message Number 10116 No privacy neccesary... most people here know me. I'm 15, and just over a month away from 16 (yay!).... =========== From: BEATLE To: THUMPER 1 Subject: ?????????? Date & Time: 11/01/90 19:46:01 Message Number 10117 > Manic deppression is hard to deal with at 1:00 am eh? Well, if you are taking some sort of drugs (like was implied earlier in the message), stop, and it should help. I know someone who was taking drugs quite often and considered herself a manic depressive. Now she's n not taking drugs anymore (I believe) and she's no depressed anymore. =========== From: RUFUS To: TURTLE Subject: David Duke Date & Time: 11/01/90 19:59:02 Message Number 10119 >...start buying so many PS/1's that they'll pop up in K-Mart. "Attention K-Mart customers, we are having a blue light special on bad computers. PS/1's, only $39.95." =========== From: RUFUS To: TURTLE Subject: Toxic Shock Date & Time: 11/01/90 20:02:12 Message Number 10120 Speaking of McD's, they've announced they won't be using foam containers for their sandwich items. =========== From: BURNEY To: BEATLE Subject: ShOCk Date & Time: 11/01/90 20:50:27 Message Number 10122 I'm very suprised to hear (see) that. By the way you talk, I'd have guessed much, much older [(17/18) just kidding]. You seem much more mature than your years may suggest. You've got a good start on the future...dont blow it by trying to become like the riff raff you aren't. In time THEY will wish they were more like YOU. =========== From: SPELLWIND To: DRAGONFLY Subject: Christian affai Date & Time: 11/01/90 22:09:01 Message Number 10125 True, but the fact that they are totally different does not mean that they cannot be the same. =========== From: SPELLWIND To: ALL Subject: juydg x Date & Time: 11/01/90 22:19:44 Message Number 10126 AERTJUJ (arami for blue-faced) Another time.... =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: BEATLE Subject: Drugs Date & Time: 11/01/90 22:57:33 Message Number 10128 The drug humor was just that, drug HUMOR! The only things I'm addicted to is music, and nicotine.(One good, one bad, I know...) and the reason for the depression was because I saw into the future and saw that Beyond Chaos had crashed. And I just came up with a new way to kill the rebels on the story board!!!!!!WWWWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: BURNEY Subject: 's ok Date & Time: 11/01/90 23:02:59 Message Number 10129 It probably was funny, but it was late, and I was tired (like now) and my humor sensors were not on kilter. later... =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: ALL Subject: modems Date & Time: 11/01/90 23:08:28 Message Number 10130 Any one no where I can find a 2400 Bd hayes compatible modem cheap? (No, not no but "know" ya' know? The one I have is to slow, and is there any recomendations out there for good com.software for IBM's?(Not ps/1's please) =========== From: TURTLE To: DRAGONFLY Subject: Georgie Date & Time: 11/02/90 01:57:28 Message Number 10132 >I wish he [George] had kept it shut down until Congress came up with >a satisfactory budget. It'd still be shut down. I'd hardly call the bound three-volume disaster they produced "satisfactory." By the way, I hope you all in BBS land are ready for the tax hikes on gasoline and alcohol coming December first; I'm not looking forward to them! =========== From: TURTLE To: DRAGONFLY Subject: Christian affai Date & Time: 11/02/90 01:59:45 Message Number 10133 >Astronomy existed well before Islam existed. Astrology existed well before Islam existed. Such astronomy as was necessary for the pursuit of astrology also existed. According to my Islamic Studies professor, though, both astronomy as a pure (ie, unconnected with fortunetelling, "the will of the gods," and similar nonsense) and history the way we understand the term were Islamic innovations. There is a HELL of a difference (pardon the expression) between the off-the-cuff fast and loose "history" as it appears in the Bible and history as a serious discipline, and Ibn Khaldun is generally regarded by pretty near everyone to be the world's first true historian. There's more to history than saying "King Izod raised his taxes yesterday; man, that ticks me off!" =========== From: TURTLE To: DRAGONFLY Subject: Cmdr Date & Time: 11/02/90 02:03:33 Message Number 10134 >Really? What's your source for that information? Wake up and smell the 6502's, dude! The C=64 is the best-selling computer in history, and still has more units installed worldwide than any other hardware platform in existance! You didn't think it was PC architecture machines, did you?? =========== From: TURTLE To: KEN SABLE Subject: And Noone Date & Time: 11/02/90 02:05:56 Message Number 10135 >NOBODY LOVES ME ANYMORE! Well, I'm sure...no, wait. I think that's not true. Um...any takers? (grin) =========== From: TURTLE To: BURNEY Subject: furry art Date & Time: 11/02/90 02:07:25 Message Number 10136 Well, see, there was this party, and I got kinda wasted, see, and a friend of mine there was just getting exposed to the "furry" thing for the first time, and she had this set of Magic Markers, see, and... =========== From: TURTLE To: BURNEY Subject: instinct Date & Time: 11/02/90 02:08:44 Message Number 10137 Yes, xenophobia and bigotry most certainly /can/ be learned from other people. I'm not saying that the only way you get bigots is if they're born that way; I'm saying that there probably exists a genetic predisposition toward that sort of behavior. =========== From: TURTLE To: BURNEY Subject: And Noone Date & Time: 11/02/90 02:10:25 Message Number 10138 >...it's hell trying to keep up with all the messages in your allotted >time. Hey, if you (or anyoine else) need more time, just let me know! I'm not stingy. Drop me a line in E-Mail and I'll raise your time limit. =========== From: TURTLE To: DIONYSUS Subject: words of wisdom Date & Time: 11/02/90 02:11:32 Message Number 10139 >So what's wrong with incestuous sex? I can't speak for anyone else, but you've obviously never met my family, or you'd realize the answer to that question is intuitively obvious to even the most casual of observers... =========== From: TURTLE To: ABARACUS Subject: hello Date & Time: 11/02/90 02:13:15 Message Number 10140 aLTER rEALITY's been up for a year and two months now. Welcome aboard! =========== From: TURTLE To: THUMPER 1 Subject: Heinlein Date & Time: 11/02/90 02:16:00 Message Number 10141 >Fear is the mind-killer... Bene Gesserit saying, from "Dune." "The Cat Who Walks Through Walls" is truly a remarkable book. Remarkably /bad/, that is. Kind of a shame; most of his earlier works were much better... =========== From: TURTLE To: THUMPER 1 Subject: ?????????? Date & Time: 11/02/90 02:22:38 Message Number 10142 >...when I turn out the light, is it all really there? No. I keep everything that's not being illuminated in a box in a closet at my former residence in Cape Coral. Ask Max; he's seen the closet... I don't always keep the box illuminated. =========== From: TURTLE To: BEATLE Subject: An issue Date & Time: 11/02/90 02:24:58 Message Number 10143 >...I certainly hope [politics] is more of a useful system when I >get old enough to vote. HA ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! =========== From: TURTLE To: BEATLE Subject: ?????????? Date & Time: 11/02/90 02:26:02 Message Number 10144 I know someone who occasionally takes drugs because she /is/ depressed...although I hardly think that part of the message was all that serious. Recreational drugs don't generally cause manic-depressive behavior. Suicidial, homicidial, psychotic, paranoid, schizophrenic, irrational, weird, and fun behavior, yes; manic-depressive, no. =========== From: TURTLE To: RUFUS Subject: Toxic Shock Date & Time: 11/02/90 02:29:43 Message Number 10145 I heard about McD's switching to paper containers. It kinda ticks me off. Sure, polystyrene isn't degradable, but paper isn't degradable in landfills either AND you gotta cut down trees to make it, it's an environmental disaster to manufacture, and it leeches toxic stuff into the ground when it gets wet. =========== From: CRYSTAL To: DRAGONFLY Subject: An issue Date & Time: 11/02/90 04:33:29 Message Number 10147 Two questions, 1) What country were you in, at the time the medication was precribed? 2) What was the drug that you were precribed? * CRYSTAL * =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: BURNEY Subject: Cmdr Date & Time: 11/02/90 17:34:01 Message Number 10149 I've also heard this from a third source, Turtle. You might be right. I thought by now Big Blue had sold more computers, but I admit: I'm probably wrong. /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: BURNEY Subject: Duke Univ. Date & Time: 11/02/90 17:36:47 Message Number 10150 >Forgive this poor slobs ignorance... I don't know if you're either poor or slobbish, but if you're on this board, you almost certainly aren't ignorant. >...but what do you mean by 'global village'? It's one of my idealisms. Basically, I'm saying that people the world over have to become aware of the cultures outside their own. In other words, one of the roads to peace is global understanding and acceptance. We're afraid of that which we don't understand, so we must make ourselves and others aware of other cultures; other ideas. The United States has tried to make itself isolated from the world for too long -- then it tried to become the global policeman. Neither solution will help the world (especially including the U.S.) grow together. Nothing terribly profound there, really. Basically, for the U.S, it means an acceptance that we're no longer "number one" in everything -- and that we're now receiving some of the same exploitation we once gave to other countries. It means that we don't operate in a vacuum; that other countries, other ideas, other basic philosophies do exist. And without a knowledge of them, we'll fall further and worther behind in the world's eyes. The terribly unprofound /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: DIONYSUS Subject: Navel's Date & Time: 11/02/90 17:50:02 Message Number 10151 >I wonder what they did with the lint... Well, I lent it to Liszt. He wint somewhere with it... /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: THUMPER 1 Subject: Heinlein Date & Time: 11/02/90 17:53:33 Message Number 10152 >Did you ever read "The cat that walks through walls"? Unfortunately, yes. It should be re-titled "How Pixel saved the universe." >Or try "Number of the Beast." I did. The four least logical "mathe- maticians" I've ever seen. If they had all the theory of the multiple universes before, why did it take them so long to figure out they were jumping from fiction-universe to fiction-universe? Both of those were some of the worse, most "escapist" Heinlein. (They weren't his worst novel, however. His very last novel was.) Of his later works, I like Stranger in a Strange Land the most. But his earlier ones were fantastic. /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: THUMPER 1 Subject: ?????????? Date & Time: 11/02/90 18:00:32 Message Number 10153 >I can see this room, but when the lights go out, is it all really >there? Yes, but when the lights are on, and you can see the room, is it all really there? Even though you can see things, does it mean they exist? Does anything exist outside your mind? Does your mind exist? If so, what color is it? Or does color exist? Does existance exist? The solipsistic /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: BEATLE Subject: An issue Date & Time: 11/02/90 18:04:56 Message Number 10154 Hmmm... it seems to me that politicking (that is, telling your voters how good of a job you're doing) and being a politician (that is, making sure your voters' interests are being served) are entirely different skills. We have many fine actors in Congress and the Senate who act wonderfully in front of cameras. I'm not sure how many of them are more interested in serving their voters than getting re-elected. /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: CRYSTAL Subject: An issue Date & Time: 11/02/90 18:20:47 Message Number 10156 > What country were you in, at the time the medication was prescribed? > What was the drug that you were prescribed? Hmm... should I be talking about this on a tapped BBS? The country was Mexico, and I don't remember the drug. I know it was opium-based, but I'm not sure what, precisely, it was. /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DIONYSUS To: BEATLE Subject: PS Date & Time: 11/02/90 19:04:27 Message Number 10157 Okay. You have a right to say that IBMs are really trashy computers. But don't expect me to share that view. Sure, there are better systems on the market, some prices a hell of a lot more reasonably, I might add. But IBM still sets a lot of precedents, are still VERY well respected (at least among SOME), and really deserve credit for being what they are in the computer world. 2 Live Crew is the worst thing you've ever heard called music? Well, Manatee Bar Association had lunch last week listening to 2 Live Crew, and actually didn't think they were all that bad. Of course, the lyrics were dubbed out. =========== From: DIONYSUS To: BEATLE Subject: E.T. Date & Time: 11/02/90 19:10:30 Message Number 10158 E.T. was, in fact a sequel. What did that stand for anyway? Oh yeah - The Extra Testicle. I think it was number three in the series. =========== From: DIONYSUS To: RUFUS Subject: PS/1s Date & Time: 11/02/90 19:12:57 Message Number 10159 Gimme forty of 'em. =========== From: DIONYSUS To: RUFUS Subject: Toxic Shock Date & Time: 11/02/90 19:14:31 Message Number 10160 Damn! And those foam containers are so good at repelling catsup stains, too. =========== From: DIONYSUS To: TURTLE Subject: words of wisdom Date & Time: 11/02/90 19:22:16 Message Number 10162 I'm afraid my attempt at a pun was taken seriously... oh well. =========== From: BURNEY To: THUMPER 1 Subject: 's ok Date & Time: 11/02/90 19:52:31 Message Number 10163 >humor sensors not on kilter... Hey, noooo problemo dude. (notice the unseen punctuation over the 'e' in problemo.) (pro: problaymo) =========== From: BURNEY To: TURTLE Subject: furry art Date & Time: 11/02/90 19:58:49 Message Number 10164 No need to go further. I get the picture. This /is/ a family board.... .....right? =========== From: BURNEY To: DRAGONFLY Subject: Duke Univ. Date & Time: 11/02/90 20:06:12 Message Number 10165 With that I hAve to agree. Japan is a perfect example. They killed people who came to there shores. After many years under the daimyos (spelling) and various warlords and ultimately the shogun, they realized that if they were to rule the world (which was the goals of the emperor) they would have to learn the ideologies of the world and glean from them what they thought was needed to rule the world. (ex: learned from german army until defeated in ww1 then I believe they went to French(?)...not sure) =========== From: BURNEY To: DRAGONFLY Subject: An issue Date & Time: 11/02/90 20:15:29 Message Number 10166 Was it that cancer drug? =========== From: BURNEY To: TURTLE Subject: instinct Date & Time: 11/02/90 20:21:43 Message Number 10167 You are another person who says that. I also heard that about crime and blacks (no kidding I really heard that...on the 6:00 news no less about 2 months ago) What makes you come to that conclusion? =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: TURTLE Subject: heinlein Date & Time: 11/02/90 20:48:38 Message Number 10168 Perhaps, but I like Heinleins work. Old or new. I havn't got to much of his older writing,(I am in fact going backwards at waldenbooks) but I read stranger in a strange land( you grok me?) The collection of short storys called (The Past Through Tommorow) is good and contains a lot of older stuff. Get it and read,Methusela's Children as well as Misfit Do you like Orson Scott Cards works? (Ender's Game, and Speaker for the Dead?) =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: TURTLE Subject: Illumination Date & Time: 11/02/90 20:53:59 Message Number 10169 How do you keep all that stuff in your closet? Perhaps by means of temporal displacement? (for a complete explanation of T.D. read Spellsinger by Allen Dean Foster) what would happen if we shed light on the closet? Would all its contents explode into reality? (whoof! messy) or would you just have to get out the dust buster? =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: DRAGONFLY Subject: Don't be tohard Date & Time: 11/02/90 21:02:17 Message Number 10170 Perhaps not profound, But certainly eloquent. Bravo, my friend. =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: DRAGONFLY Subject: lint Date & Time: 11/02/90 21:04:29 Message Number 10171 That last post was a little "fuzzy". =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: DRAGONFLY Subject: once again Date & Time: 11/02/90 21:06:12 Message Number 10172 Once again, I'll repeat myself. I've read "Stranger in a..." And I enjoyed it. The book of Short stories "The Past Through tommorow is also good. I'm working my way through Heinlein backwards at waldenbooks so I have not got to any "older" things yet (Any Suggestions are welcome ) But You have to understand my taste in the illogical. I'm an Organ- Salesman(GASP!!!) I sucker people into buying a $25,000 machine (That is a real price! No kidding!) when they're on a fixed income. I have to play lounge music all day for the older folk just to get them in the store. If heard "When the Saints Go Marching In" once every 15 minutes you'd want to read a little illogical fantasy too. Yeeeeeshh! Perhaps you see my point? Grok! =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: DRAGONFLY Subject: Solipsism Date & Time: 11/02/90 21:15:17 Message Number 10173 I sorry but my cats exist. All cats exist, I couldn't exist without them. I mean, what purpose would I serve other than to cater to their feline whims? You'd have to be a cat owner(TRANS: person owned by a cat) to understand. Are You? =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: BURNEY Subject: language Date & Time: 11/02/90 21:22:10 Message Number 10174 Sorry no spanish here...Sprechen Sie Deutch? Ich bin sehr mude. Chuse! =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: TURTLE Subject: Drugs Date & Time: 11/02/90 21:26:15 Message Number 10175 Drugs?!!?!?! Who? Me? Where?!? NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!! Did I say drugs? NOOOOOOOO! I meant fabric softener! Yeah Yeah! That's it! Fabric soft- ener! Who me? Drugs? No Way! Not Me... ...Well maybe nicotine, and caffine, and schlitz, Coors, Miller, ABsoLuTE... and uH! Jose' QUervo!!!! and COke and PCP!!!!!!!HAHAHAHAHAHA Angel DDDUUUUSSTTTT!!!!!! OH YEAH!!! I LIKE IT!!!! CRACK !!! OH AND WHAT ABOUT LD5 AND XT2? OH YEAH!!!SNORTSNORTSNORTSNORTSNORTSNORTSNORTSNORTSNO RT... ...No really, just fabric softener. =========== From: SNAKEBYTE To: BEATLE Subject: Barb's Date & Time: 11/03/90 00:05:43 Message Number 10177 Sorry for the long time between calls. I got voice connected twice here and it shyed me from trying too hard. Oh yeah, I saw the Site station the next day and felt like a real fool.....a real big fool. Oh well....nuthin' new for me......hehe =========== From: SNAKEBYTE To: TURTLE Subject: Barb's Date & Time: 11/03/90 00:09:27 Message Number 10178 Thanx for the info(?) on Magnetic Peripherals. What's this 5pm-9am stuff? I call from work occasionally and I got "voiced" a couple of times. Thought a/r had gone and died. Glad to see it hadn't..... =========== From: SNAKEBYTE To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Barb's Date & Time: 11/03/90 00:12:04 Message Number 10179 Just about a month without getting on...wow! Sorry for the belated thanyou for the HD info. Don't know how many sectors it is....it's broke. Gonna get in touch with the manufacturer soon, best way I know to be sure......see ya' =========== From: BURNEY To: THUMPER 1 Subject: Solipsism Date & Time: 11/03/90 18:25:31 Message Number 10180 I don't know if Dragonfly is but I am. Damn that independant S.O.B. =========== From: BURNEY To: THUMPER 1 Subject: language Date & Time: 11/03/90 18:28:12 Message Number 10181 I took two years of /deutsch/ in high school. That was 10 years ago. I don't remember much (never use it). Now if I understand your deutsch >Ich bin sehr mude. Chuse! which I dont, you are /what/? The answer in english would be appreciated. Maybe after a time it'll come back. =========== From: BURNEY To: ALL Subject: scratcing Date & Time: 11/03/90 18:37:42 Message Number 10182 ScRatCh..SCRatCh..ScrATCh.. Has any body...SCraTcH...SCraTCh...got a cure...ScraTCH...for...sCRatCH. ..SCRATch...poision ivy...? It's driving...scrAtCH...me insane =========== From: KEN SABLE To: TURTLE Subject: And Noone Date & Time: 11/03/90 21:11:59 Message Number 10184 See, no takers ... Actually EVERYONE loves me! :) What a strange TRS- 80 keyboard ... What a strange character set! Wow! =========== From: TURTLE To: DRAGONFLY Subject: ?????????? Date & Time: 11/03/90 21:20:34 Message Number 10186 >Does your mind exist? Yep. Does /yours?/ --A mindful Turtle Isn't that kind of a personal question there, dude? =========== From: TURTLE To: BURNEY Subject: furry art Date & Time: 11/03/90 21:27:28 Message Number 10187 >No need to go further. i get the picture. Bad pun, dude. I hope it was accidental... >This /is/ a family board.... >.....right? I don't see any families calling...but it /is/ public-access, I suppose. =========== From: TURTLE To: BURNEY Subject: An issue Date & Time: 11/03/90 21:29:05 Message Number 10188 >Was it that cancer drug? No. That "cancer drug" is actually an extract of apricot pits; it's illegal because it's about as effective in curing cancer as eating Crayola crayons while singing "The Star-Spangled Banner," not because it's particularly dangerous. Still, it's a good mechanism for separating the masses from their money... =========== From: TURTLE To: BURNEY Subject: instinct Date & Time: 11/03/90 21:31:22 Message Number 10189 Huh? Not sure I see the connection between saying that people are instinctly xenophobic and saying that there's a connection between crime and blacks... =========== From: TURTLE To: THUMPER 1 Subject: Illumination Date & Time: 11/03/90 21:32:29 Message Number 10190 Well, the closet only contains objects which are not being illuminated. If you shed light in the closet, the objects would be illuminated and therefore they would no longer be in the closet. Sometimes, just for fun, I turn the closet light on and off and on and off... Of course, when I turn the light on, the objects inside are being illuminated so they aren't in the closet. But when they aren't in the closet, they aren't being illuminated any more, so they are. It's kinda fun to watch other people's stuff simultaneously exist within and not within my closet... =========== From: TURTLE To: SNAKEBYTE Subject: Barb's Date & Time: 11/03/90 21:37:42 Message Number 10191 The 5pm-9am stuff is there so the line can be used in my diligent search for employment outside of McD's...if I ever get the money, the BBS will go to its own line and everything will be peachy-keen again. *sigh* Oh well... =========== From: TURTLE To: KEN SABLE Subject: And Noone Date & Time: 11/03/90 21:39:33 Message Number 10192 I LIKE the TRS-80 keyboard, thankyewverymuch. The character set is not nearly as obnoxious as the one on Max's Superbrain, but I wish the monitor weren't green... =========== From: BEATLE To: SPELLWIND Subject: Christian affai Date & Time: 11/04/90 00:06:36 Message Number 10194 > True, but the fact that they are totally different does not mean that > they cannot be the same. VOOP! VOOP! VOOP! Non-sequitur alert!! (I always like to do that)... Please explain how this seemingly contridictory statement can be true. =========== From: BEATLE To: TURTLE Subject: ?????????? Date & Time: 11/04/90 00:12:29 Message Number 10195 Okay, score another one for limited common sense. I keep missing things that I should be getting... I need some mind discipline! Get something in there besides knowledge and opinion... what use are they if I keep tripping up? =========== From: BEATLE To: DIONYSUS Subject: PS Date & Time: 11/04/90 00:18:07 Message Number 10196 > 2 Live Crew is the worst thing you've ever heard called music? Well, I'm really sick of most of rap. There is getting to be a better selection of rap music, altough it's still not my favorite type of music ... What I don't like is that a lot of rap uses the same un-musical beat and uninteligible lyrics. 2 Live Crew come across to me as uneducated idiots. They look like they've been drinking and are about to fall over dead, not to mention they smile too much (which must be better than their speaking) and they try to make any swipe against them into an issue of racism (which seems to be prevailant today, unfortunately, in schools)... =========== From: BEATLE To: DIONYSUS Subject: E.T. Date & Time: 11/04/90 00:23:39 Message Number 10197 > I think it was number three in the series... Almost amusing. =========== From: BEATLE To: THUMPER 1 Subject: Illumination Date & Time: 11/04/90 00:26:14 Message Number 10198 > How do you keep all that stuff in your closet? Whatever doesn't fit is protected by a 100% guaranteed S.E.P. field. (Somebody Else's Problem)... =========== From: BEATLE To: TURTLE Subject: Illumination Date & Time: 11/04/90 00:30:20 Message Number 10199 > It's kinda fun to watch other people's stuff simultaneously exist > within and not within my closet... One to add to my either mental or computerized list of interesting quotes. I hope you consider putting it in the next Overheard (oh, what is it, four months or so away??) "Oh, you mean I wasn't supposed to erase that?" - TTR =========== From: BEATLE To: TURTLE Subject: Barb's Date & Time: 11/04/90 00:33:40 Message Number 10200 It probably won't help, but the grocery store out here in the sticks (just kidding...somewhat) is looking to hire a "full-time night stock worker"... Well, we all know you like the night part... =========== From: BEATLE To: TURTLE Subject: UltraSheep Date & Time: 11/04/90 00:36:32 Message Number 10201 UltraSheep is a classic! Cracked me up to no end (and now I'm still picking up the pieces seven hours afterward)... Are you working on a sequel where we actually get to see UltraSheep "battle the forces of evil, the laws of physics, and absurdity wherever it rears its ugly head [maybe IBMs HQ??]"??? And even more importantly, is UltraSheep going to keep "rustle rustle" ing around now that he's a big exec?? =========== From: RUFUS To: DIONYSUS Subject: PS/1 Date & Time: 11/04/90 01:17:45 Message Number 10202 >I mean, their popularity has to say something for them. Kinda like "New Kids on the Block"? =========== From: RUFUS To: DRAGONFLY Subject: An issue Date & Time: 11/04/90 01:32:51 Message Number 10203 >I know it was opium-based... I was on medicine (for 'the runs') that contained opium. Anyone more up on medicine and drugs care to explain what the opium did (other than make me feel better :) )? =========== From: RUFUS To: BEATLE Subject: Illumination Date & Time: 11/04/90 01:40:30 Message Number 10204 I myself have massed together a rather large list of groovin' (HollyTalk (tm)) quotes, along with pictures, and tommorow I'm gonna have to go searching for furry art...sigh... =========== From: RUFUS To: BEATLE Subject: UltraSheep Date & Time: 11/04/90 01:41:59 Message Number 10205 I'm waiting for: 1) UltraSheep merchandise. Shirts, mugs, dolls, a TV show... 2) Lawsuits from just about half of America. Those included will be IBM, George Bush, the Soviet Union, and Chuck Schultz (sp?). I also expect the PMRC, PTA, DAR, and the ACLU to be sueing (sp?). =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: BURNEY Subject: cATS Date & Time: 11/04/90 17:34:00 Message Number 10207 Then you know what its like. I have five myself. 2 are kittens, and the big boy of the group is named Spike, (23 pounds of feline fun!) =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: BURNEY Subject: Deutch Date & Time: 11/04/90 17:35:53 Message Number 10208 >Ich bin sehr mude. Chuse! I really need some german letters! That means "I'm tired." And "chuse" Means See-Ya! Wie lange hast du schreibt am deiser BBS? (How long have you been posting on A/R) =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: TURTLE Subject: Closets Date & Time: 11/04/90 17:41:27 Message Number 10209 >It's fun to watch other peoples stuff exist within and not within my closet.< Kinda' like Dan Quale existing and then not quite existing in the white house. =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: BEATLE Subject: S.E.P. Date & Time: 11/04/90 17:47:07 Message Number 10210 Cool. You want me to quote some vogon like poetry foryou to suffer throu I mean aprecciate? Ode to belly button lint Oh I would yearn to see. A bird within a tree. A kitty romp through feline mint <-----------------(Catnep) Or sniff Jim Baker's navel lint. Yes Tammy Fae is my kinda' gal And Jimmy boy is simply swall (swell...whatever) A stooly gave the feds a hint Now Jimmy's sniffing his CELLMATES lint. Thank you thank you. Now Tell me what you think or I'll toss you out the airlock! RESISTANCE IS USELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!! =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: BEATLE Subject: Huh? Date & Time: 11/04/90 17:57:42 Message Number 10211 Excuse me for butting in but now I'm interested. Whats "Ultrasheep" and where can I get a copy to read myself? =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: ALL Subject: De'nada Date & Time: 11/04/90 18:04:29 Message Number 10212 To Quote a close friend,"All the worlds a CPU, and we are just bit players.-Ender-Nov.1990" Yes another lame attempt to break up monoteny(Spelling?) I'll just mosy on out and let one of you Brainy Types Start and interesting little talk =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: BURNEY Subject: Duke Univ. Date & Time: 11/04/90 18:41:50 Message Number 10213 You got it. Although I'm not absolutely certain about Oriental history and culture (yo, Turtle!), what you've said sounds similar to my ideas. Except, of course, the bit about ruling the world. The easiest way to do that, of course, is to have the biggest armies and weapons -- which the U.S. already has. /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: BURNEY Subject: An issue Date & Time: 11/04/90 18:44:09 Message Number 10214 >Was it that cancer drug? No, it wasn't a cancer drug. I picked up a really nasty bug in Mexico (or maybe three), and the opiate was one of the two drugs the doctor gave me. /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: THUMPER 1 Subject: Eloquence? Date & Time: 11/04/90 18:49:02 Message Number 10215 Thanks, friend! =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: THUMPER 1 Subject: lint Date & Time: 11/04/90 18:50:21 Message Number 10216 >That last post was a little "fuzzy" Yes, but it was a real peach. =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: THUMPER 1 Subject: once again Date & Time: 11/04/90 18:51:51 Message Number 10217 Having to listen to ANY song once every fifteen minutes would drive me a little crazy, myself. I'd be about to ask how you manage to sell such things to people of fixed income, but I thought of what I was doing last summer -- a position straight out of Doonesbury. Trying to "sell" the Republican Senators to the Hispanic community. (I speak Spanish fairly well.) It's convinced me never to vote for Connie Mack. Anyway, the only early Heinlein that I remember is "Stormship Troopers" -- a fairly good book. But the person I've just been sold on was Mercedes Lackey. Try her out, sometime! /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: THUMPER 1 Subject: Solipsism Date & Time: 11/04/90 18:59:04 Message Number 10218 I have been rejected by two cats in my life. Both were self-assured strays who wandered in to my life, stayed two or three weeks, and then left for greener pastures. Anyway, I've been more of a dog fancier myself. /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: THUMPER 1 Subject: language Date & Time: 11/04/90 19:02:33 Message Number 10219 Das tut mir leid daB du sehr mude bist. /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: TURTLE Subject: ?????????? Date & Time: 11/04/90 19:09:29 Message Number 10220 DF>Does your mind exist? T> Yep. Does /yours?/ Okay. Now, prove it. /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: TURTLE Subject: And Noone Date & Time: 11/04/90 19:13:35 Message Number 10221 >I wish the monitor weren't green... I'll loan you a can of pink spraypaint. /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: BEATLE Subject: UltraSheep Date & Time: 11/04/90 19:17:53 Message Number 10222 What I'd like to know is: Why would UltraSheep want to battle the laws of absurdity? /Dragonfly/ =========== From: DIONYSUS To: BEATLE Subject: PS Date & Time: 11/04/90 21:50:50 Message Number 10223 Jeez - my memory stinks. Oh well. I don't suppose you'd believe me if I told you (though I don't remember the source) that the leader of 2 Live Crew makes more money from heading three record labels than he does does from being in the band. =========== From: DIONYSUS To: BEATLE Subject: E.T. Date & Time: 11/04/90 21:53:53 Message Number 10224 Why thank you. I'm glad you have the balls to admit it. =========== From: DIONYSUS To: BEATLE Subject: E.T. Date & Time: 11/04/90 21:54:25 Message Number 10225 Now, if you'll excuse me, I've gotta study. I've got a test-to-kill tomorrow. =========== From: DIONYSUS To: RUFUS Subject: PS/1 Date & Time: 11/04/90 21:56:07 Message Number 10226 Actually, yes. =========== From: TURTLE To: BEATLE Subject: Illumination Date & Time: 11/04/90 22:06:05 Message Number 10228 >I hope you consider putting it in the next Overheard... Well, Bart tells me I'm the Official Designated Overheard Person (tm) (as well as the Official Designated Proofreader (tm)), so it might be kinda silly to put my own quotes in Overheard. Next Mythagoras is (in theory) due out in January or so... =========== From: TURTLE To: BEATLE Subject: Barb's Date & Time: 11/04/90 22:07:42 Message Number 10229 Can you be more specific about this grocery store?? I don't know where you live (even though I've been out there), so I don't know where it is. At this point I'll take pretty near anything. =========== From: TURTLE To: BEATLE Subject: UltraSheep Date & Time: 11/04/90 22:08:59 Message Number 10230 >UltraSheep is classic! Thank you. Yes, there will be more...the first real UltraSheep /story/ (the one in Mythagoras #3 was background and origins, rather than a story) is being scripted right now and will appear in Mythagoras #5. Yes, he will keep "rustling" about even though he's a powerful, important executive...although not exactly in the same way. Plus, look for all manner of new strangeness in the story...mum's the word... =========== From: TURTLE To: RUFUS Subject: Illumination Date & Time: 11/04/90 22:11:58 Message Number 10231 >HollyTalk (tm)... When is she leaving for Germany again? =========== From: TURTLE To: RUFUS Subject: UltraSheep Date & Time: 11/04/90 22:12:31 Message Number 10232 UltraSheep merchandise is actually a real possibility...Wratt is working on the design for an UltraSheep T-Shirt that's a parody of all the neon Ron Jon/Bad Dog surfer shirts wandering around. It'll probably be some disgusting flourescent color, with an "UltraSheep" logo on the front and a huge Da-Glo pic of UltraSheep himself on the back. They should be rather cool (and expensive, but oh well). =========== From: TURTLE To: THUMPER 1 Subject: S.E.P. Date & Time: 11/04/90 22:17:10 Message Number 10233 >Now Tell me what you think or I'll toss you out the airlock! Well, I liked it, rawther. =========== From: TURTLE To: THUMPER 1 Subject: Huh? Date & Time: 11/04/90 22:17:57 Message Number 10234 UltraSheep is a comic that debuted in Mythagoras #3, available directly from me or at the Time Machine comic shop in Bradenton. Cover price is $3.95 but if you get it from me it's $3.75. =========== From: TURTLE To: THUMPER 1 Subject: De'nada Date & Time: 11/04/90 22:19:04 Message Number 10235 All the world's an analog stage and digital circuits play only bit parts. =========== From: TURTLE To: DRAGONFLY Subject: ?????????? Date & Time: 11/04/90 22:22:37 Message Number 10237 >Okay. Now prove it. I don't like 2 Live Crew. 'Nuff said. =========== From: TURTLE To: DRAGONFLY Subject: UltraSheep Date & Time: 11/04/90 22:23:02 Message Number 10238 >Why would UltraSheep want to battle the laws of absurdity? Not the laws of absurdity...absurdity itself! It's a self-reference thing, see, and...never mind. =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: DRAGONFLY Subject: Your welcome Date & Time: 11/05/90 01:29:42 Message Number 10239 No Problem...Just look at my stuff in a silly light. then it makes more sense. Ciao' =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: DRAGONFLY Subject: peachs Date & Time: 11/05/90 01:31:08 Message Number 10240 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHAHAHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEHEHEHE! IS there MCI on this system? \b1 Was there a beep? later \v2 have a good night. Thumper One =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: DRAGONFLY Subject: Books Date & Time: 11/05/90 01:34:14 Message Number 10241 >Mercedes Lackey... never heard...etc. But I'll check it out. Try to read Neuromancer by William Gibson.(The man how invented the Cyberpunk fiction movement(SP)) You been in the area long? See ya' =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: DRAGONFLY Subject: Dogs Date & Time: 11/05/90 01:37:41 Message Number 10242 I had a black labrador when I lived with my parents. His name was Buck. I love that dog...He still beats the hell out of me with that thick tail The People I rent from already had three cats when I came here. I just obtained two more kittens.(Fiesty little buggers) They're all mixed. =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: DRAGONFLY Subject: Deutch Date & Time: 11/05/90 01:41:05 Message Number 10243 >Das tut.... You don't have to be sorry. I just stay up to late typing all these posts. (Yawn). I'm usually to tired to even log off. the Time limits usually get me.(Or my brother logs me out while I sleep.) =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: TURTLE Subject: Peotry Date & Time: 11/05/90 01:49:44 Message Number 10244 OOps.. Good subject spelling. "I smile and lift an eyebrow at your remark, which succedes in obscuring my nose, which is then ,of course, no bad thing..." OK I won't toss you out the airlock, but I will ask you to tell me the answer to the ultimate question of the universe. Whats the answer! =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: TURTLE Subject: Cool Date & Time: 11/05/90 01:54:11 Message Number 10245 Cool my friend. I'll take one. You want me to send you the money or is there a BBS credit system? I got Visa, mastercard, and -------------- Europa Trans-universal credits. Want to buy some nebulonic clouds? Cheap! Send me some E-mail on Myth...#3 Kay? later!!! =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: TURTLE Subject: yeah-yeah Date & Time: 11/05/90 01:58:00 Message Number 10246 Ok smart guy. here a tough one: what color are mickey mouses shoe? =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: ALL Subject: Wherez evybody? Date & Time: 11/06/90 00:27:28 Message Number 10247 Is the reason for the absence of posts tonight perhaps that the board was not answering the phone this evening? I called several times, but it was never answered. Maybe this is some new sign that I don't understand. Or maybe all the talk of solipsism canceled everybody out but me! AAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHH!?!?!?!?!?!!!! \b1 =========== From: CRYSTAL To: BURNEY Subject: scratcing Date & Time: 11/06/90 02:29:49 Message Number 10248 I do believe that Calamine (sp) lotion, the beige stuff, is the only product that will control the itch. It is not a cure, but if you stop itching it, it will not spread. When I was little, between the ages of 4 and 10, I got it at the beginning of every summer. Good luck. * CRYSTAL * =========== From: SPELLWIND To: TURTLE Subject: Heinlein Date & Time: 11/06/90 04:32:41 Message Number 10249 That's about those cats that help the reporter guy solve mysteries, right? Those are cool. =========== From: SPELLWIND To: DIONYSUS Subject: PS Date & Time: 11/06/90 04:41:09 Message Number 10250 So, where's the Bar these Manatees have set up an Association at? =========== From: SPELLWIND To: BEATLE Subject: Christian affai Date & Time: 11/06/90 04:53:09 Message Number 10251 They appear totally different (additudes, personalities..etc) but they still could be the same figure, just seen differently, though I doubt it. =========== From: SPELLWIND To: BEATLE Subject: PS Date & Time: 11/06/90 04:55:30 Message Number 10252 Most so. Oden was beaten up quite a few times by black students at Riverview... =========== From: SPELLWIND To: TURTLE Subject: Duke Univ. Date & Time: 11/06/90 05:07:29 Message Number 10253 Actually, according to the Centaur World Atlas, Iraq's army is pretty small... want me to pop in the disks and give you the actual nomber? (Actually it's the % of GNP used on the military...) =========== From: SPELLWIND To: THUMPER 1 Subject: yeah-yeah Date & Time: 11/06/90 05:11:39 Message Number 10254 If you're referring to his 'shoes', they're yellow, and occasionally B&W on a B & W cartoon... =========== From: SPELLWIND To: CRYSTAL Subject: scratcing Date & Time: 11/06/90 05:13:30 Message Number 10255 Yep. Calamine's the only thing that can do it. =========== From: BEATLE To: RUFUS Subject: UltraSheep Date & Time: 11/06/90 06:46:24 Message Number 10257 > Lawsuits from... Gee, you left out the first one in the whole thing: Gary Trudeau (sp?) =========== From: BEATLE To: THUMPER 1 Subject: S.E.P. Date & Time: 11/06/90 06:49:23 Message Number 10258 As I would type in the game of HHGTTG... ?> enjoy poetry Like I have a choice? =========== From: BEATLE To: DRAGONFLY Subject: UltraSheep Date & Time: 11/06/90 06:52:31 Message Number 10259 > Why would UltraSheep want to battle the laws of absurdity? No, no. It's "battle the forces of evil, the laws of physics, and absurdity wherever it rears its ugly head I had no idea there were LAWS to absurdity. =========== From: BEATLE To: DIONYSUS Subject: PS Date & Time: 11/06/90 06:55:04 Message Number 10260 > ...more money from heading three record labels... I would believe it. And I'm glad someone took action against them fro (er, FOR) using the name "Skywalker" (albeit they used two Y's)... I don't take kindly to those people who degrade the names of the Rebel leaders who fought to destroy the evil Empire! =========== From: BEATLE To: TURTLE Subject: Illumination Date & Time: 11/06/90 06:57:45 Message Number 10261 > Next Mythagoras is due our in January or so... I thought the deadline was THIS month. Geesh, tell me I'm wrong please ... I've got some stuff I want to polish up and send in. =========== From: BEATLE To: TURTLE Subject: Barb's Date & Time: 11/06/90 06:58:56 Message Number 10262 > Can you be more specific about this grocery store?? Yes. It's a Kash n' Karry, it's big, the building is pink and white, it's in the Manatee Towne shopping center, next to a Rite Aid drug store and they're hiring night stockers... that's all I know, unless you want to know more about the INSIDE... =========== From: BEATLE To: TURTLE Subject: UltraSheep Date & Time: 11/06/90 07:02:01 Message Number 10263 > It'll probably be some disgusting flourescent color... Hey! I /like/ fluorescent colors! And I hope they do get a shirt, I would love to see what kinda reaction it would pull at school! (It also might help sell Mythagoras, too..) =========== From: BEATLE To: TURTLE Subject: Huh? Date & Time: 11/06/90 07:03:53 Message Number 10264 > if you get it from me it's $3.75. Okay, concern #1 has been settled. I /did/ pay the right amount. Now, nobody has concured on /why/ I paid that much. Mike Hickmon said it was because I didn't get the "neat-o plastic bag" and Tyler said it was because you were only semi-consious at the time, and I should pay the money back. =========== From: BEATLE To: BEATLE Subject: Barb's Date & Time: 11/06/90 07:09:43 Message Number 10265 Actually, I don't know the adress to the KnK, or anything much to tell the "location", but it's on SR 70, and it'S on the next intersection  west of New 301. =========== From: BURNEY To: TURTLE Subject: furry art Date & Time: 11/06/90 20:08:32 Message Number 10266 Yup it was unintentional... =========== From: BURNEY To: TURTLE Subject: An issue Date & Time: 11/06/90 20:09:38 Message Number 10267 Yeah I remember it was from fruit of some kind. Can't remember the name of the drug though... =========== From: BURNEY To: TURTLE Subject: instinct Date & Time: 11/06/90 20:11:28 Message Number 10268 If you recall, you mentioned that certain actions are caused to a certain degree, by genetics. I heard the same about blacks and crime. I don't know what the xeno...what ever means though.. =========== From: BURNEY To: THUMPER 1 Subject: cATS Date & Time: 11/06/90 20:26:20 Message Number 10270 OH MY GOD...wadda ya feed that thing...super cat food or something? I only have one and thats plenty. I love to put her on the dryer for a few minutes and let her come out a giant static fur ball...ha..ha..ha... (hysterical laughter) =========== From: BURNEY To: THUMPER 1 Subject: Deutch Date & Time: 11/06/90 20:29:09 Message Number 10271 Ich bin schreibt am die BBs drei/ fier months lange. See its coming back slowly. Very slowly indeed. The gramar isnt correct either I'm sure. =========== From: BURNEY To: DRAGONFLY Subject: Duke Univ. Date & Time: 11/06/90 20:35:17 Message Number 10272 AH but we don't have the biggest army (china w/200 million). Also the Soviet army is larger. That is why we are nuke loaded in the persian gulf. It is no secret the US will go nuclear early if things go badly. I knew someone who was in the armed forces in Viet Nam. We were nuke loaded then too. Didn't knowthat did you... =========== From: BURNEY To: THUMPER 1 Subject: yeah-yeah Date & Time: 11/06/90 21:39:19 Message Number 10273 yellow....i think.. =========== From: BURNEY To: SPELLWIND Subject: scratcing Date & Time: 11/06/90 21:44:22 Message Number 10274 I've tried it, it don't work on mefor some reason. I finally had to go to the clinic and get a shot of cortizone. That took care of the swelling but not the itch. I finally went to the market and got a tube of cort creme. That took care of the itch temporarily. After 2 weeks going on three, it is finally going away....YEAH HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN... =========== From: DRAGONFLY To: TURTLE Subject: UltraSheep Date & Time: 11/06/90 22:04:47 Message Number 10277 How many colors will the Ultrasheep (tm) shirt have? And what font will UltraSheep be in? /Dragonfly/ =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: SPELLWIND Subject: goooooood! Date & Time: 11/06/90 22:09:25 Message Number 10278 Ok. that one was easy. but most people get it wrong. (I hope you didn't cheat.) how about calculating Calculating Pi to its last decimal place for me? =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: BURNEY Subject: Static Date & Time: 11/06/90 22:25:06 Message Number 10279 >super cat food? Naw. he doesn't even eat a lot. He just got that big by himself. Got another that is headed that way too. I'll have to try the cat static thing. Sounds good. =========== From: THUMPER 1 To: BURNEY Subject: Goiman. Date & Time: 11/06/90 22:29:05 Message Number 10280 My Grammar sucks too. =========== From: RUFUS To: DRAGONFLY Subject: Solipsism Date & Time: 11/07/90 17:24:31 Message Number 10282 Funny, I wrote a paper for English on a cat that stayed with us for a few weeks then left. Of course, I made up a few events to spruce the paper up, and named the cat Omaha. =========== From: RUFUS To: TURTLE Subject: Illumination Date & Time: 11/07/90 17:27:11 Message Number 10283 >When is she leaving for Germany again? Umm, Ghods only knows (and I bet a few them don't know). That is, if she is still going. Any number of things could pop up, the foremost being financial problems. =========== From: RUFUS To: CRYSTAL Subject: scratcing Date & Time: 11/07/90 17:31:42 Message Number 10284 >When i was little, between the ages of 4 and 10, I got it [poision >ivy] at the beginning of every summer. Every summer? Was it a yearly ritual? :) =========== From: RUFUS To: BEATLE Subject: UltraSheep Date & Time: 11/07/90 17:34:50 Message Number 10285 >Gee, you left out the first one... I dunno, I really don't think Gary Trudeau would sue... =========== From: RUFUS To: BEATLE Subject: Illumination Date & Time: 11/07/90 17:37:01 Message Number 10286 The deadline for submissions is 12/12/90. It'll probably come out in January. =========== From: BEATLE To: ALL Subject: Grrr... Date & Time: 11/07/90 18:47:54 Message Number 10288 I have here in my hands a TV Guide report on "Is TV going too far?"... I seem to get the impression that the article is a bit biased. I'm also upset that they consider talking to five families a genunine "survey" to find out what offends people on TV. Anyone else read this article?? =========== From: TURTLE To: THUMPER 1 Subject: peachs Date & Time: 11/07/90 21:37:23 Message Number 10290 >IS there MCI on this system? Fortunatley, no (thank God). There isn't even word-whap on this system...much less anything in the way of intelligent message pro- cessing (other than on the part of the reader, of course). =========== From: TURTLE To: THUMPER 1 Subject: Books Date & Time: 11/07/90 21:38:41 Message Number 10291 >Try to read Neuro mancer by William Gibson. Excellent book! One of my favorites... >(The man who invented the Cyberpunk fiction movement...) Not really. Cyberpunk was invented by Bruce Sterling ("Islands in the Net"), but William Gibson made it popular. =========== From: TURTLE To: THUMPER 1 Subject: Peotry Date & Time: 11/07/90 21:40:40 Message Number 10292 >...I will ask you to tell me the answer to the ultimate question of the >universe. What's the answer! Contrary to popular belief, the answer is not "42" as previously suspected. Rather, the answer is "three cups of lima beans, two ounces of guacomole, sixteen small flightless birds, and blue." =========== From: TURTLE To: THUMPER 1 Subject: yeah-yeah Date & Time: 11/07/90 21:43:08 Message Number 10293 What color are mickey mouse shoe? That's easy, they'r$#{{{+{{ -,{{{{{{;@@ .,d{,&% NO CARRIER =========== From: TURTLE To: THUMPER 1 Subject: Wherez evybody? Date & Time: 11/07/90 21:44:24 Message Number 10294 >I called several times, but it was never answered. Sorry 'bout that. My computer was busy doing kinky links with an Amiga 2000HD; I dragged this 'puter over to a friend's and hooked 'em up at 19.2K baud so I could transfer a bunco of files back and forth. It ended up taking longer than I'd anticipated, since I also ended up calling some Amiga BBSes from her 'puter and downloading a bunch of stuff from there, too. ...aah, Amiga. Where else can I do a batch file transfer as a background task, and as each file comes in fork off a new process that works on translating the file from .GIF format to .IFF format while I have a Mountain Dew and relax? 'Course, with only a meg of memory things start getting a little cramped after you've got four or five programs running at once, but oh well... =========== From: TURTLE To: SPELLWIND Subject: Heinlein Date & Time: 11/07/90 21:48:36 Message Number 10295 >That's about those cats that help the reporter guy solve mysteries, >right? No, "The Cat Who Walks Through Walls" is about a singular cat (Pixel) with the ability to walk through solid objects, who because of this talent ends up saving the Universe. =========== From: TURTLE To: SPELLWIND Subject: Duke Univ. Date & Time: 11/07/90 21:50:19 Message Number 10296 >...Iraq's army is pretty small... They're currently fielding over a million soldiers; that's not small, dude. They don't spend very much on their army, and as a result it's underequipped and badly trained, but it's very, very large. =========== From: TURTLE To: BEATLE Subject: Illumination Date & Time: 11/07/90 21:53:57 Message Number 10297 >I thought the deadline was THIS month. The deadline for submissions to Issue #4 is December twelve. =========== From: TURTLE To: BEATLE Subject: UltraSheep Date & Time: 11/07/90 21:55:13 Message Number 10298 Well, New College is setting up a screen-printing outfit right now. There are three shirts I'd like to make: an A/R T-shirt, an UltraSheep T-shirt, and an "I Visited Sunny Beiruit, God's Own Paradise on Earth" T-shirt (the latter wuld be burned, scorched, and shot full of holes before wearing). Of the three, the Beiruit one is the most likely to appear first, since Wratt and I are nominally working on the art now. The UltraSheep shirt would likely be /very/ expensive (probably around $18 a pop), so making that one may have to wait for more financial resources to avail themselves. =========== From: TURTLE To: BURNEY Subject: An issue Date & Time: 11/07/90 22:01:52 Message Number 10300 >Can't remember the name of the drug though... Laetril, although calling it a "drug" is kind of stretching the definition of the word. "Drug" is a term usually applied to sub- stances which are physiologically active. ===========