From: savoire@yabbs To: all@yabbs Subject: Learning Date: Mon Nov 15 15:49:59 1993 The most dangerous attitude expressed here is "go get a book and learn by yourself." This is completely contrary, in my view, to the free exchange of information. Remember earlier in the thread, when everyone was talking about newbies on HPA boards? The greatest statement coming out of that was that these boards are a great place to learn and to exchange ideas. I agree with the specific complaint that idiots arbragging and handing out accounts which were not procured legitimately, an illegal enterprise that threatens the system. However, I think that discussions on security holes in Unix, ways to sneak through telnet-watchers, mailing anonymously are all discussions that are perfectly valid, and I would encourage them. To say "get out of here and read a book" is not conducinve to the free atmosphere. Basics get acquired pretty quickly, and the goal of a hacker is ewxploring. Let's support this goal by stopping the idiotic brag/rag wars, and equally stopping the massive posts on why everyone hates newbies / w3r3z d00dz etc. Instead, let's talk about how to make the most of the internet. Relinquishing the soapbox...