From: cosmos@yabbs To: Justin@yabbs Subject: re: First steps Date: Tue Jan 25 15:21:57 1994 Forgive me if I am intruding, but what do you mean "board"?? If you are referring to a bulletin board based server like yabbs then you are not going to find a multitude of them. This is not ms-dos and windows weenie land. Now explain to me why you would want to break into an internet BBS anyway...90% if not 100% of them are public and accessible anyways. To go on, if you want to compromise the security on an internet site then the first approach is not to ask "hey, how do I do it" but to learn and absorb the operating system. This is not the easiest of tasks. Unlike the 80's, the internet is now relatively secure to the average attacker. Learn UNIX. Learn it, study it, and live it. Get all the books you can about UNIX, find a local provider, school, etc... and get aquainted to using UNIX. If you are on an intel platform get netBSD(or LINUX if you are inclined), macintosh get macBSD. Play with it and expirement with everything. Yes, welcome to hacking 101. More books, time, and sweat thatn any damn college course you will ever take. NEVER beg for accounts, and expect a silver platter to be handed to you. Hacking is not picking up some cool t-philes and typing some commands. It is a philosophy and an intense understanding and knowledge of computers and operating systems, and is not limited to the uebercracker(thank you Dan Farmer) but to any person who accomplishes their goal through undocumented or abstract methods. My $.02 Cosmos