From: Nomad@yabbs To: Adonis@yabbs Subject: re: You guys know nothing! Date: Fri Jan 28 02:28:39 1994 Adonis has gvot to be lamest person. To make such a broad post like that even as a joke is fucking stupid. I could take the average computer user and teach him how to safely hack banks, schools, companies, etc in less than a week. If you were a good hacker you would realize that it doesn't matter how may systems you occupy, it's what you can get from each system. I will never be impressed by the quantity of systems a person has, I will only be impressed with the quality of the systems and the hacker's ability to yield the most from each system. Adonis has only told us war stories of his exploits (which are gvery vague) and he is just calling us lame. This tells me that he is just a beginner. Anyone that is really good realizes that he was once a novice and his knowledge did not come easy. Furthermore, he would be willing to help those starting out by helping them learn the things that they need to succeed in their projects, etc. Adonis, I hope that one day you will learn what hacking is all about. I know by experience that obtaining systems has got to be the easiest part of hacking. Utilizing the given resources given and yielding information from them is a little more complex. Each system you get in can serve some purpose, be it as an ip scanner, carrier scanner, modem access to a certain area code, a password cracking site, an archive site, a place for you to test your programs, a place to set up a mail address, a bbs site, a contact site for group members (if you are in a group) and much more. If you have skills that are exceptional, I would like to hear about them. Judging from your posts I can tell that the only things you know about hacking are running scripts that give you root (rdist, div/0, etc) and Cracking passwd files. You may have some patches but so do tons of people who will never learn how to program. This can be a big flame war or you can turn this into a learning experience for everyone including yourself. Nomad