From: htoaster@yabbs To: all@yabbs Subject: redboxing Date: Thu Feb 3 10:16:37 1994 the radio shack dialer plays the codes way slow as well, compared to what they really sound like. If you want to compare them in a nice and easy way find a payfone that doesn't mute the handset when you drop quarters in (lots of handsets still don't), tape the quarter tone, digitize it, and then digitize your redbox. Put one on the left channel and one on the right channel. Pretty big difference in speed, and the freqs are a little off as well if you us a 6.5535 crystal (6.5 is better, 6.4xxx something is supposed to be the best). All of this redbox stuff is quite lame though. You aren't learning about the system, just abusing it for your own personal benefit. They might have been cool a few years ago, but who cares these days. Is it really that big of a deal to pay a few dollars for ld calls... If you really want a cool box look at the Hacktic demon dialer. I saw the one that the 2600 people own a few years ago. Pretty impressive. And they claim it can be put into a very small case (about the size of a memory dialer, maybe smaller). Lets you pretty much program any two channel (or maybe more) sound you want, set them up for hotkeys, has a access code you need to type in to get to the fun stuff (otherwise it is just a dtmf player). expensive though... alex