From: tknight@yabbs To: all@yabbs Subject: cut the shit. Date: Wed Feb 16 18:06:15 1994 Ok,I'm with Nomad and Cosmos on this issue,you're probably not going to learn shit from some file you ftp. Believe it or not I learned some of my best information straaight from the damn manuals(for instance call your local dec dealer,they'll send you just about anything you ask them for). But hacking is not for revenge,it is for the exploration of digital frontiers(oh shit,i'm starting to sound like an issue of wired)and not for system crashing. Do realize if I wiped out every hard drive i had accesses to in my area i would just be fucking my self over(besides the poor guy y that cant find his thesis pape in his home directory). For example i've had access to a local AIX system in my area for about 3 months,I have super user and all and could wipe them out if i was a stupid lamer,but instead i do what hackers originally starting out did. I LEAR. Thats right i pull out my unix manuals and teach my self to program in shell,c and lisp. Why? you ask. If you have to ask you dont understand the hacker ethic,and no matter how many textfiles you read and how elite you think you are, you will never understand why either. OK,that was my little rant,OOps,I meant I LEARN ^ there. If you didnt like this thats your opinion,you can rebut me but flaming me will just make your self look stupid. Arguments are valid,flames are not. Alright VM/CMS is probably the worst OS i have seen in a while. I like the minidisks idea but i think Alpha Micro did a better job with AMOS. I'll dig up which minidisk exactly its stored in but you usually cant access it , in a past phrackthere was an article with evry IBM factory default for VM/CMS machines. All the article does is give you logons,so even if you do get in you wont know shit(unless,you RTFM) Ok,I am no where near god like hacker status but i have been experimenting with system 75 lately( i mean i've set up pbxs and the sort) but i would be very intrested in talking about setting up a bridge with syetm 75 with some one. Tobias Knight Cant wait to see the byte size on this one.