From: johndeer@yabbs To: all@yabbs Subject: stuff Date: Sun Apr 10 14:17:18 1994 Magstipe readers at grocery stores: it appears as if most of them ARE connected centrally to a computer onsite. since the registers usually are (to perform matchups between UPC and price) and teh credit card thingies are connected to the register, it wouldn't be that hard. i'm sure the verify is performed like they are for ordinary verifones. perhaps the grocery storetems are smart enough to "batch process" verifies if more than one is sent at a time. the new thing they have, at least in the Wash. DC area, is SCAN, which is teh "shared check authorization network".. this device reads the numbers on the bottom of a check (which is NOT OCR, but instead, MICR) and dials up a database run by the SCAN company that performs a verify.. they interface with most POS register systems as well.. one thing i've always been thinking about is cracking the PIN on atm/credit cards. yes, i know they're encrypted, but almost all pins are 4 digits, which leaves only 10,000 possibilities. if I had a magstripe reader interface to a computer, and a copy of the encryption algorithm (which must be semi-public, for these multitudes of POS devices to perform checks), I could crack it on a computer in minimal time.. cell fones on the freeway: there was a thread in telecom digest a while back, but as I recall the devices are low-power (well, i guess all cell-fones are) and they recharge daily witha solar panel on the top of the box. i wouldn't recommend snagging them, as i'm sure they're stripped down, custom models, which don't have any features at all. probably not even a keypad. john Deere