From: Hrothgar@yabbs To: all@yabbs Subject: re: prayer in school Date: Tue Aug 9 18:56:01 1994 ok ok ok, maybe my thoughts are a bit nationalistic and idealistic, but, as a military guy, I take those things very seriously and very personally. No, I don't think saluting the flag (or pledging ineveryone else's case) is just revering a bunch of cloth. Relating this to religious issues, it's kinda like trans-substantiaition, for all you Catholics out there. Once a flag is made, it's no longer just a colored cloth, it symbolizes America. And yes, some of you don't have the highest views on why most of us are here and the values this country was based on, but face it - this country is a bastion of hope for the entire world. People save money their entire lives, not to come here, but just to send ONE child here, so that maybe he or she can have a better life than they. That's not some idealistic propaganda I whipped up in my sleep one night, that's the way it is, and has been for over two centuries. Before you all continue to bash me and the country I have pledged to die for, think about what this country means to you, and if you feel this country, and everything that symbolizes America and it's freedom (the flag, Statue of Liberty, even a baseball or a dollar bill), does not represent the most free, democratic, and well-governed nation in the world, then spend your life saving money so that YOUR child can live somewhere that's better. Thank you, I will step down from my soap box and speak no more... Hroth