From: laelth@yabbs To: Xela@yabbs Subject: re: Eastern Religions Date: Sun Aug 14 00:49:07 1994 In message 237 xela said: "Stop romanticizing mysticism just because it's mystic." In no way did I intend to romanticize mysticism. I said that I felt attracted to the teachings of Kung Fu Tse, but there's nothing mystical about that. Kung Fu Tse is practical, political, and very realistic. He's not a mystic at all. What I was trying to say is that it may be impossible for Westerners to understand Eastern Mysticism. We can only understand the world through our own symbolic systems, and Eastern religions spring out of very different patterns of thought than those that we Westerners employ. Xela also said: "The East has done its share of rape and pillage." I don't deny this claim, but that does not refute the fact that Western civilization has been characterized by the need to expand and conquer other peoples and lands. Take the English, for example, who began as a wandering barbarian tribe in Central Europe, moved to Northern Europe, then to England, then to Ireland, then to the US, then to Australia, Africa, India, etc. We even put our flag on the moon, like we had colonized it, as if we owned it! My point was that this trend is part of what it means to be us. And we do it not only with land and property, but with ideas. We find, capture, and transform everything that we encounter. This is bound to be the case with Eastern religions as well. We cannot"think" in the way that an Eastern religion would require. Thus, we are doomed to mutate Eastern mysticism into something that it wasn't intended to be. Thus my skepticism about the Western desire to turn to Eastern religions for answers. -laelth