Received: from apple.com by karazm.math.UH.EDU with SMTP id AA06436 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 14 Oct 1991 19:40:02 -0500 Received: by apple.com (5.61/1-Oct-1991-eef) id AA25749; Mon, 14 Oct 91 17:21:03 -0700 for Received: by motcsd.csd.mot.com (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.4) id ; Mon, 14 Oct 91 17:17 PDT Received: by roi.ca41.csd.mot.com (smail2.5/CSDmail1.0, Motorola Inc.) id AA12566; 14 Oct 91 17:15:40 PDT (Mon) To: galt%peruvian@cs.utah.edu, lance@roi.ca41.csd.mot.com, dstamp@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: simple code to get simple gestures Cc: glove-list@karazm.math.uh.edu Message-Id: <9110141715.AA12550@roi.ca41.csd.mot.com> Date: 14 Oct 91 17:15:36 PDT (Mon) From: Lance Norskog > Sounds like a Kalman predictive filter. The question is, how much will the overshoots affect operator performance? If you're going to develop the code for such a filter, I hope you make several versions, using different delays. This would allow users to match the filter to their own system's video display, rendering and processing times. Isuggest multiples of 33 mS. Also, it would be interesting to set up a simple system using a "bar" cursor or other easy-to-draw symbol, and try out the effect of changing the filter coefficients. After all, we're getting into psychophysics here, and that is *not* an easy field to predict. I've noticed weird "viscous" effects using head-position to cursor feedback with a system delay of 50 mS or less. Addition of hysterisis of 1/6 visual degree stopped that, and reduced noise, but at the cost of some of the "reality" feel of the system. It's amazing how little it takes to make such feedback feel like a "tool" rather than an extension of the body. Sounds like you know what you're talking about and I don't. Yes, this needs a lot of experimentation, and preferably a menu and calibration system. I don't believe in canned software. "I know what you need. Trust me!" References, please? Should I look for books by Kalman at the Stanford CS library? References in CACM year-end indices? Thanks, Lance Norskog